Kawasaki VN750 Forum banner

1 - 20 of 28 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,450 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
I see these helmets on TV all the time that look pretty cool and also offer plenty of protection. Why do I look completely ridiculous in every helmet I put on? The full face isn't bad (even though it makes my head look enormous) but I'm not rockin that when it's 98 and humid. I got the half helmet, like the cop helmet, but the padding is so thick, my head looks like big ol' cupcake. The thing looks like it sits on top of my head instead surrounding it.

I also got the german style helmet thinking it would be better. It's not. It also sits on top so my head looks like a giant mushroom - or worse. Any idea wear I'm going wrong?

I'm thinking Sr. from OCC. He never looks like a cupcake or a mushroom. Any help would be great...
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,778 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
738 Posts
I see these helmets on TV all the time that look pretty cool and also offer plenty of protection. Why do I look completely ridiculous in every helmet I put on? The full face isn't bad (even though it makes my head look enormous) but I'm not rockin that when it's 98 and humid. I got the half helmet, like the cop helmet, but the padding is so thick, my head looks like big ol' cupcake. The thing looks like it sits on top of my head instead surrounding it.

I also got the german style helmet thinking it would be better. It's not. It also sits on top so my head looks like a giant mushroom - or worse. Any idea wear I'm going wrong?

I'm thinking Sr. from OCC. He never looks like a cupcake or a mushroom. Any help would be great...
Are your helmets properly sized and fitted? Many riders buy helmets that is too big. Most good cycle shop have someone qualified to properly size and fit (i.e., adjust internal pads) helmets. Also, when temps reach 99 degrees and above and your body begins to absorb heat. So, a full face with all the vents closed can be a good option as temperatures exceed 98 degrees.
 

·
Linkmeister Supreme
Joined
·
7,960 Posts
Are your helmets properly sized and fitted? Many riders buy helmets that is too big. Most good cycle shop have someone qualified to properly size and fit (i.e., adjust internal pads) helmets. Also, when temps reach 99 degrees and above and your body begins to absorb heat. So, a full face with all the vents closed can be a good option as temperatures exceed 98 degrees.
I`m with Chris here LP. I think you need to find a good salesman to fit a helmet to your head.

Also read David Hough`s article on hot weather riding in his first volume of "Proficient Motorcycling". Basically he points out that once ambient temperatures get over body temperature of 98.6*F, anything more than short rides is going to overheat your body unless you are insulated from the hot wind blast. He wears a full face helmet and riding jacket (NOT MESH), pants, gloves, boots, and a scarf to keep the hot air away from the major arteries in the neck when long distance riding in those condition. It looks hot, and is, but not as hot as riding unprotected.:wow:

I looks odd to us in northern latitudes because we are used to taking off clothes to cool off when it is hot. That only works when ambient temps are below body temperature. Want another example? Think how the old desert nomads dress with long robes and a head covering to survive in the terrific daytime heat they endure. Just saying.:blah:
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
11,970 Posts
I see these helmets on TV all the time that look pretty cool and also offer plenty of protection. Why do I look completely ridiculous in every helmet I put on? ...


First off, we are going to need pictures.

It is just possible you have a huge head to begin with.

I always wear a full face, as mentioned it can actually keep you cooler. But I started wearing 3/4 helmets first... and also looking at myself in the mirror, I thought they looked kinda big. 1/2 helmets do make you look like mushroom and there ain't much you can do to avoid that other than wear a non-DOT approved helmet with basicly no lining. (the part that protects your head when it hits is really the lining, not the outer shell)

What I figured here was , I do not care what I look like while riding if it means I am better protected. If your image to the public is that important to you , then buy a metal hat like Paul Sr. wears...or buy a kids "army" helmet and paint it black, steal a DOT sticker off another helmet and don't worry about brain damage.


KM
 

·
Member? ... check.
Joined
·
546 Posts
I have used a half helmet, and decided that there was an unacceptable lack of protection. I have also had a full face, and felt that the visibility and riding experience suffered. The one I have now is sort of a motorcycle cop style with a full face shield. I really like it. It shields the wind, stays cool, and has great visibility and riding feel. I like a helmet with a snug (not tight) fit, so the strap can remain comfortable stabilizing the headgear in the wind. It is not Snell, but is DOT. Next time you shop, ask for assistance. Try on several, and if they have nothing you fall in love with right away, walk out, and try somewhere else. Good hunting !
 

·
Daily rider
Joined
·
1,043 Posts
Think how the old desert nomads dress with long robes and a head covering to survive in the terrific daytime heat they endure. Just saying.:blah:
You'll also notice that it's loose-fitting cotton, not hot leather or nylon. I'm sorry, but I've worn a full-face helmet in 100 degree weather, and I did not feel any cooler.

Back in August of 1976, I rode from Northern Wisconsin to Idaho during a 100+ degree heatwave. It was just freaking hot!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,450 Posts
Discussion Starter #8 (Edited)
OHHH OK!!! Enlightening as always fellas. So I'm not going with a plastic skull cap because I don't want to sacrifice protection. I was curious if there was anything between the skull cap and the mushroom. Had to be. Apparently if I want that, I have to get fitted for one. Fair enough.

No, my head isn't bigger or smaller (literally anyway) than any other 32 year old dude, I just obviously haven't found the proper processes for helmet shopping yet. Ask someone, hmm - whooda thunk it? Occam's Razor applies once again! "All things being equal, the simplest solution is usually the most correct." I'm on it.
 

·
Undercover Sportbiker
Joined
·
1,097 Posts
FWIW, all of the DOT approved half helmets I tried on when I was considering transitioning to one while riding my cruiser. Every single one I tried on either had a mushroom or phallic look. I decided to stick with my FF.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
11,970 Posts
You'll also notice that it's loose-fitting cotton, not hot leather or nylon. I'm sorry, but I've worn a full-face helmet in 100 degree weather, and I did not feel any cooler.

No one said you would feel cooler, just that you would not feel hotter. and that is a stretch anyway, as the point is to keep you from cooking or dehydrating.

Case in point, Did a 150 mile ride with ambient temps in the high 90's . Wore a t-shirt, thin cotton pants, tennis shoes and a 3/4 helmet with no shield , but goggles.
Got to my destination and felt like crap for a good 3 hours.

Fastforwad to the same trip, same tempatures, but me with a windscreen, FF helmet, mesh pants and jacket...no exposed skin other than my neck.
Got there and felt great.

On both trips...I still felt like I was being baked...but when I finally stopped, my recovery time was almost instant with all the mesh gear, and without it I actually felt kinda worn out and sick.

HOT is HOT and other than taking the air conditioned car, you ain't going to feel "cool". What you are working for here is not getting overheated badly... or sick, or suffering long term effects of being in that heat.


KM
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,126 Posts
I have to agree from experience roasting in hot Texas sun. This past summer I used mesh and buttoned up totally with my full face and everything. Went much farther and maintained hydration better without being warmed by the 100 plus temperatures...
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,027 Posts
I used to wear half and 3/4 helmets, but no more. Full face only. I don't wear the helmet for looks, I wear it for comfort and protection, which not only includes crash protection (I have never crashed), but protection from the sun, cold, wind, and whatever debris might be in it (rocks, bugs, even birds) I got hit in the face shield by a bird once, or more accurately, I guess I hit the bird. Almost took my head off. I probably would have had serious injuries, and in fact would probably have gone down at 75 mph had I been wearing a beanie. As it was, my neck hurt for several days afterward from the impact.

I believe in getting the most inexpensive DOT approved full face helmet you can find that fits right. The DOT standard has been proven superior to Snell and the European standards in real world crashes, and offers more protection. With helmets, $500 does not buy you any more protection than $100. If you want matte black or something like that, you will pay a little more, but stay away from the expensive brands. They are nothing but status symbols. If you can afford a helmet that says Arai on it, fine. But it is not necessary. Many crotch rocket riders around here are wearing super expensive "race replica" helmets that look just like the professional roadracers wear, that they are trying to copy. It's probably a good thing too, as they try to ride like professional roadracers, and most of them crash a lot.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
738 Posts
One more note about properly sizing and fitting a helmet is to account for your skull shape. I have a long oval skull shape and found that most helmets are manufactures for those with round heads. That meant selecting a large helmet size to accommodate my medium sized long oval skull, leading to a poor fit and perhaps an oversize helmet look (didn't notice that). Then I found the Arai Profile, that is specifically designed for long oval head shapes. The medium Arai Profile is a perfect fit. So, don't overlook the shape of the helmet as a source for poor size selection and fit.

By the way, Arai helmets can be found at reasonable prices. The trick is to chose a helmet graphic that is no longer in vogue (Arai puts out new graphics each year). I originally wanted to purchase a basic grey (no graphic) Arai Profile, but the best price found was $500+. Same helmet with an outdated graphic (which I actually love) was $270/delivered. That's not supercheap, but it is competitive and worth it for the fit, comfort and protection.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
11,970 Posts
I believe in getting the most inexpensive DOT approved full face helmet you can find that fits right. The DOT standard has been proven superior to Snell and the European standards in real world crashes, and offers more protection. With helmets, $500 does not buy you any more protection than $100. .
Sorry to disagree here Jerry, but most riders in the world seem to agree the European standard...(now compatable with the new SNELL 2010 tests) is the bench mark for rider safety. Some info here:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/snell-2010-standard.htm

I should also point out that DOT does not test helmets. They came up with a impact threshold years ago that a helmet must have to be used on American roads, but anyone who makes helmets simply has to say that their helmet will pass or exceed the DOT test criteria , and they can then put a DOT sticker on their helmet. The majority of helmets made actually exceed this standard, and were in fact tested by the maker.

But some cheap imports..(read : chinese ones) are rumored to have simply lied just so they could sell their helmets in the US.

So, do not buy the cheapest DOT helmet you can find....lol.
It is true a $100 helmet might protect you just as well as a 500 dollar one, but some folks do have an intrest in fit...and features. My 110 dollar KBC feels like a toy compared to my $300 Shoei...and is not very comfortable on a long trip. The Shoei has a better visor system, it also has a better venting system, a removable liner , and is lighter. So in some instantances you do get what you pay for.

KM
 

·
Giggity!
Joined
·
4,307 Posts
Since this popped up again I thought I'd throw this helmet out as an option. This one is made by scorpion, Vega has a new version very similar. It's completely new this year & I don't believe it's on the market yet. I saw it at their distrbution center here in columbus. We did some work for them & the guy there gave me the grand tour. This helmet didn't look to bad on my head & I loved the retractable visor.

 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
5,236 Posts
Since this popped up again I thought I'd throw this helmet out as an option. This one is made by scorpion, Vega has a new version very similar. It's completely new this year & I don't believe it's on the market yet. I saw it at their distrbution center here in columbus. We did some work for them & the guy there gave me the grand tour. This helmet didn't look to bad on my head & I loved the retractable visor.

I looked at that helmet,I have full face Vega,and it is noisier than my half helmet,all i here is wind noise ,I can't hardly stand it unless it is raining it is so noisy,I have a half helmet that is quieter than the Vega .

I like the looks of that helmet with the retractable visor,it also has the full neck curtain and coverage for the ears,does it have price on it yet?

While we are at it who has a FF that think is quieter? Any recommendations ?
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
11,970 Posts
My Shoei RF 1000 is the quietest helmet I have owned.

I understand their new "Quest"? Touring helmet is supposed to be
the quietest helmet ever......it was actually engineered to be.

A good fit means alot....but you should be wearing ear protection
any way.......

KM
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,450 Posts
Discussion Starter #20
has anyone found out any more details, seems valve are still pretty tight lipped on the subject
Reported. :mad:

OK, there's no linkable pic. It's in a PDF document. But click the link & you can see it. at $89 not to bad.

Link
Looks like it has everything, I'll definitely check it out. Great find, thanks man. :smiley_th
 
1 - 20 of 28 Posts
Top