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I am close to fifty and I just bought my first full face helmet,new no less,I had been considering going to one for awhile and seriously thought about buying one of the modular helmets,but after reading a post on here ,I think it was by Knife Maker,where he was wondering how well they would hold up in a face first crash.And I also have a friend whose 19 year old cousin in OH is in a coma and has been for several days now and the only place on him besides the head injury is a laceration on his ankle. This boy was wearing a high quality ,name brand full face helmet I am told and it broke or split.It told me that at my age I better buy the real deal.So after much searching and trying on,I found one that fit my melon right an that is going by what the video with Jay Leno and the Arai Rep ,I believe that is the right brand I bought a Vega with the removable washable liners/pads.It is a far cry more protective than what I have been wearing even if it isn't the most expensive helmet made.Any body had any experience with the Jafrum Leather Jackets with the CE armor in the elbows,shoulders and back?
 

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3/4 or full face?

hi denny...
i was going to post a question about helmets, but since you started this, i'll just add to it.
i've got a full face KBC that is a little to small, so i am going to get a new helmet.
i've been riding since early 70s and most of the time used a 3/4 helmet. i've been in lots of wrecks on my dirt bikes, and have always hit the back or top or sides of my head. never hit my face on anything.
so, i know a full face is the way to go if i was racing, but i'm thinking about going back to a 3/4 on the new helmet.
what are everybodys thoughts on the two for just street riding.
is a full face more for looks/style and a 3/4 more than adequate for the actual way my head might hit something?
has anybody actually had an accident where the 3/4 wouldn't have been enough?
 

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ok heres my take..... with those brands you are doing almost that.... paying for the name.. i have a scorpion helmet... not the top of the line but it meets dot and snell standards so they have to be good... i have a power trip jacket that has kevlar reinforced back and elbow and forearm pads....

i too was in the modular helmet boat too and also had the same feelings but i have a friend who crashed and he had one on... destroyed the helmet but he came out ok... didnt flip open or break..

i see it this way..... id rather have a full face because asphalt is very unforgiving...... dirt gives a little bit but will still give ya a nice brush burn..... road rash on my face is not something id like to deal with..
 

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hi denny...

has anybody actually had an accident where the 3/4 wouldn't have been enough?
I believe 750Doug may have an opinion on this, if memory serves me.

I first bought a 3/4 but am now looking at adding a full face, especially since I'm a new rider.

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hi denny...
i was going to post a question about helmets, but since you started this, i'll just add to it.
i've got a full face KBC that is a little to small, so i am going to get a new helmet.
i've been riding since early 70s and most of the time used a 3/4 helmet. i've been in lots of wrecks on my dirt bikes, and have always hit the back or top or sides of my head. never hit my face on anything.
so, i know a full face is the way to go if i was racing, but i'm thinking about going back to a 3/4 on the new helmet.
what are everybodys thoughts on the two for just street riding.
is a full face more for looks/style and a 3/4 more than adequate for the actual way my head might hit something?
has anybody actually had an accident where the 3/4 wouldn't have been enough?

instead of buying a new helmet get a size smaller "guts" you should be able to swap out the cheek pads and cradle or whatever they call it pretty easily.. take it to a dealer and see if they can help you out.....
 

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ok, thats a good idea i didn't think of... i'll see if i can get smaller pads.. i guess my head is getting bigger :)
 

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hahahah dont let it go to your head!!
 

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hi denny...
i was going to post a question about helmets, but since you started this, i'll just add to it.
i've got a full face KBC that is a little to small, so i am going to get a new helmet.
i've been riding since early 70s and most of the time used a 3/4 helmet. i've been in lots of wrecks on my dirt bikes, and have always hit the back or top or sides of my head. never hit my face on anything.
so, i know a full face is the way to go if i was racing, but i'm thinking about going back to a 3/4 on the new helmet.
what are everybodys thoughts on the two for just street riding.
is a full face more for looks/style and a 3/4 more than adequate for the actual way my head might hit something?
has anybody actually had an accident where the 3/4 wouldn't have been enough?

IIRC, Jay Leno said it best in the video denny is referring to. He talked about seeing the pavement go by through his face shield in one of his crashes rather than feeling it. You have no control over how you're going to make contact. Having everything on your head inside the helmet is the best insurance.
 

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IIRC, Jay Leno said it best in the video denny is referring to. He talked about seeing the pavement go by through his face shield in one of his crashes rather than feeling it. You have no control over how you're going to make contact. Having everything on your head inside the helmet is the best insurance.


It was enough to convince me and I just ordered a new leather riding jacket with the armor in it and am looking at some kevlar jeans to go with them,I remember road rash and still have scars on my arm from19 years of age when I was bullet proof I don't heal as fast as when I was young either,Denny
 

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I went the opposite, I went from a full face to a shorty half helmet and could not be happier. :rockon: JMO The Plexistar 2 Shield does make a difference!!! :smiley_th
 

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IIRC, Jay Leno said it best in the video denny is referring to. He talked about seeing the pavement go by through his face shield in one of his crashes rather than feeling it.


That's how it happened in my crash, face first into the pavement followed by a long slide.
 

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I wear a full face helmet. Given the protection benefits, I don't see the upside to wearing anything less. If I wind up having an involuntary get-together with Mother Earth, I'd rather do it with something protecting my whole head, keeping any sticks, stones, jagged bits of metal, etc. out of my eyes.

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hi denny...
..i'm thinking about going back to a 3/4 on the new helmet.
what are everybodys thoughts on the two for just street riding.
is a full face more for looks/style and a 3/4 more than adequate for the actual way my head might hit something?
I think most who ride cruisers opt for the 3/4 or less helmets more for looks/style than those picking full face helmets. You rarely see riders on sportbikes wearing anything less than a full face.

If you are 100 percent sure in an accident you will be able to control your fall so your face never touches a thing...then get a 3/4 helmet.
It is kinda like being a cop an wearing a bullet proof vest than only protects your front. ( a bad guy would never shoot you in the back right?)

The modular or "flip up" helmets are better than a regular 3/4 helmet, but none so far have proved to be as good as a full face. If you wear glasses or are touring Eurpope where you need to speek to border guards alot, the Flip helmet might have a place. None have passed the SNELL testing that I know of ...(SNELL tests include secondary impacts...many flip helmets seem to do the job protecting your face on an initial impact, but not multiple hits)

Granted , you can likely survive having your nose ground down to a stub and your jaw torn off , but I think the quality of life you will have afterwards will be severely diminished.

As always, the level at what you choose to protect yourself is up to you. Your bike will in all likelyhood offer you no protection in a crash , and may even do the opposite and become a threat. The only protection you can give yourself is what you wear on your body.

So choose wisely.


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My ability to chew and smell is far more important than the "style" or "comfort" of anything less than a full-face. Even at 110 degrees outside you'll find me with my full-face on. My jaws are messed up enough naturally as they are...
 

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I think most who ride cruisers opt for the 3/4 or less helmets more for looks/style than those picking full face helmets. You rarely see riders on sportbikes wearing anything less than a full face.

If you are 100 percent sure in an accident you will be able to control your fall so your face never touches a thing...then get a 3/4 helmet.
It is kinda like being a cop an wearing a bullet proof vest than only protects your front. ( a bad guy would never shoot you in the back right?)

The modular or "flip up" helmets are better than a regular 3/4 helmet, but none so far have proved to be as good as a full face. If you wear glasses or are touring Eurpope where you need to speek to border guards alot, the Flip helmet might have a place. None have passed the SNELL testing that I know of ...(SNELL tests include secondary impacts...many flip helmets seem to do the job protecting your face on an initial impact, but not multiple hits)

Granted , you can likely survive having your nose ground down to a stub and your jaw torn off , but I think the quality of life you will have afterwards will be severely diminished.

As always, the level at what you choose to protect yourself is up to you. Your bike will in all likelyhood offer you no protection in a crash , and may even do the opposite and become a threat. The only protection you can give yourself is what you wear on your body.

So choose wisely.


KM
Well said!
 

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Full face, all the time. Dress for the crash, not the ride.
 

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I went the opposite, I went from a full face to a shorty half helmet and could not be happier. :rockon: JMO The Plexistar 2 Shield does make a difference!!! :smiley_th

I couldnt agree more... I was in a nasty accident in 04 i didnt't have my full face strapped and it came off.... my passenger on the other hand suffered a broken neck due to his full face comming back and hitting him in the back of the neck... I suffered a little scratch on the top of the melon (nothing a couple staples didnt fix) not to metion its a conversation starter....

I guess what im trying to say is the only reason helmet laws are in exsistance is to identify the body, I feel free in my half shell (yes its a real half shell not a beanie) The full face i always ended up with a scratched up visor that fogs up and i cant see i was always riding with the visor up I was a stupid rider back then...

I have 2 good friends in just out of from motorcycle helmets one was wearing a beanie and is haveing memory issues but is gettin better and the other was a beautiful young lady that didnt stand a chance cause the driver of the bike she was on decided it was in his best intrest to show off and hit a telephone pole whe was wearing my back up halfshell and jacket, a couple scratches but she has a long road ahead of her she spent her 17th birtday in a comma now 8 months later she can move one side well and is getting the other side better.
Both cases were bikes traveling to fast and and offencivly one was a vrod in seattle traffic and the young lady was on a cbr on suburb roads.

We will always be put in unsafe uncomfertable situations and a helmet isnt gonna hep this our ability to ride and assess the situation befor making to drastic of a mistake will keep the 2 wheels on the road and us safe, Looking out for other bikes packing up if goin in the same direction makes us bigger and more noticable, Stay out of peoples blindspots that car comming out of the driveway ahead cant see you and will pull out


Just venting I have a halfshell and wouldnt trade it for nothing i have a neoprene face wrap for cold weather

Ride Safe and Live LONGER
 
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