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Hey everyone..Im looking to purchase some new tires for my ride . just wondering what is a good tire, brand, to go with? I was looking at the DUNLOP D404 tires but not to sure. I'll be doing a lot of long distance riding this summer and I would like a decent tire.. agn any Suggestions would be greatly appreciated
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I personally like the Dunlop’s, some folks say the “travel” a bit over grooved surfaces etc, but I haven’t been riding long enough to make a ton of comparisons. BikeBandit.com sells the pair for about $165. They even have the whitewall version which IMO looks awesome. I bought a pair when I got the bike and just bought another rear tire because I ran over the biggest screw ever and I don’t trust leaving a plugged tire for very long. The other brand I hear folks talk a lot about is Shinko.
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My opinion, the next oversize tire is the way to go.

I got 6000 miles out of the Shinko on the rear of mine, still ride-able, but smooth except for the chicken strips. Wouldn't be afraid to buy them again, but I figured I would try the Shinko 777, it has a slightly higher load rating than the Tourmaster which I felt handled well.

Got the pair of Shinko Tourmaster for $125 on ebay.

Did a lot of shopping last year, but never did buy. If you dig enough, you'll see almost all manufacturers have a problem at some point. Avon, Continental, Metzeler, etc. have all had something at some point. People said I was going to die with the Shinko, but ...

I'll probably have to start over with shopping, all the tire models have probably changed. Dunlop must still have the 404 though.
 

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Yep they still make em. Like I said I just got another one because of the plug. Should have the bike back tomorrow. I couldn’t justify getting the whitewalls because the front tire is less than a year.
 

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I bought Metzler ME888 Ultra Marathons 2 years ago. I like them. No problems at all. 15k miles and still have lots more to go.
 

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Hey everyone..Im looking to purchase some new tires for my ride . just wondering what is a good tire, brand, to go with?
Frank:smile2:
I've ridden three sets so far with only Dunlop 404 on front and back and I'm more than happy.
 

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I had Dunlop 404's on my Honda. I liked them. but on my wife's and my Vulcans, I had Metzlers.

my advice is, whatever brand up pick up, up size the tires. buy the next size up from the stock size tire. don't worry, they will fit.
 

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Kenda Kruz K673 Motorcycle Street Rear Tire - 170/80H-15

I just ordered Kenda Kruz K673 Motorcycle Street Rear Tire - 170/80H-15 for $76.88 (w /free shipping) from Amazon.com on 1/31/20 and it arrived just a few days later on 2/4/20. Going to have it mounted and balanced today. The reviews on this forum as well as on Amazon were very positive. And the price was really great!

My local motorcycle shop will mount & balance for only $35 as I plan to remove the tire and take it to them. Also plan to relube the drive shaft splines and clean/inspect the rear brakes.

NOTE: my previous rear tire was a Michelin Commander II 150/90 B15 which came with the bike when I bought it used. I personally put ~12,000 miles on that tire. No idea how many miles were put on it before I bought it but it appeared to be quite new. It was a very good tire. I literally ran it down to steel belts showing in some spots before I realized how thin it had gotten (see pic). I would have bought the same tire but prices ranged from $190-$235 and I just didn't have the $ at the time.

I searched and compared prices with Amazon.com, bikeandbandit.com, revzilla.com and jpcycles.com. Amazon had the best prices and free shipping.

I opted to bump up from the 150/90 to the 170/80 but for no particular reason.
 

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I had Dunlop 404's on my Honda. I liked them. but on my wife's and my Vulcans, I had Metzlers.

my advice is, whatever brand up pick up, up size the tires. buy the next size up from the stock size tire. don't worry, they will fit.
Just curious - why to you (and some others) recommend going up a size?
 

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Just curious - why to you (and some others) recommend going up a size?
You didn't ask me, but better ride and handling, as well as the oversize front tire corrects the speedometer to near perfect (within 1mph), instead of the +5mph with the stock size tire. On the stock size front tire, speedo reads 5mph faster than you're actually traveling.

Taller rear tire gives a very small change to the rear gear ratio, slightly less rpm at a given speed. (engine loves to rev anyway).
 

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I would absolutely NOT recommend a size. The oem sizes are perfect for this bike. I would also not recommend using Metzeler ME880s. I had a rear one literally come apart. Half the tread came off while riding. It was properly balanced and nowhere near worn out. Also avoid buying tires from Dennis Kirk. They sold me a 4 year old tire. I installed it, and was unable to get the bead to seat. I took it to a local independent shop, and they couldn't get it to seat either. I watched them try. Then they checked the tire and found out it was 4 years old.
 

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What he said^

And, having more rubber contacting the road is always good ;)
I agree with that! true that Yo!

I would absolutely NOT recommend a size. The oem sizes are perfect for this bike. I would also not recommend using Metzeler ME880s. I had a rear one literally come apart. Half the tread came off while riding. It was properly balanced and nowhere near worn out. Also avoid buying tires from Dennis Kirk. They sold me a 4 year old tire. I installed it, and was unable to get the bead to seat. I took it to a local independent shop, and they couldn't get it to seat either. I watched them try. Then they checked the tire and found out it was 4 years old.
I beg to differ on the oem size vs. up size. with the up sided front tire, not only does it correct the speedo, but it also kept the front tire form "tracking", when riding on roads that had been graded from being under construction. unlike the oem size, that would just follow those groves all over the damn road!
and then there is always the fact that "wider is better" (more rubber on the road). as KM, has pointed out. :smiley_th

with the up sided rear tire, it will lower the RPM's at highway speeds, again is wider (more rubber on the road, better traction), and also, enable the bike to have a higher cargo capacity.

so, with all that being said, I just can't bring myself to say that the oem size is "perfect".


now, as for the Metzler's?.....my wife and I, we both have gone through 2 pairs each, on our Vulcans. never had a problem. but, I do know of at least one other person that did have a problem with them. no where anywhere near the problem you had, but still, they had problems with the Metzler brand.
and just to be clear here, in no way, was I, suggesting, to any one, that Metzler tire's should be the brand to buy. I was just stating that, that was the brand that worked well for my wife and I, and that we were happy with them. nothing more.

now as where to buy tires form? I have had found that Rocky Mountain ATV/MC, not only have had the lowest prices, but really fast, free shipping.
 

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So a 160/90-15 rear tire would drop the freeway rpm's some? Sounds like more mileage to me. However I have not been able to locate any 160/90-15 rear tire.
 

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IMO, the rear tire on the Vulcan 750 is already too big, and should have probably been a 130/90-15. I suspect it was used for looks back when those big fat tires were in style. I still 100% prefer a tire with a WIDE sidewall compared to a narrow sidewall. Many of the tires they are using on newer bikes and cars pretty much have no sidewall, just tread wrapped around a HUGE diameter REEHUUM (in ghetto speak) But a really big tire on a motorcycle is heavy, and creates a lot of rolling resistance. A too big tire on the front will have a negative effect on handling. Big heavy tires are also harder to balance properly. Just look at the tires on the original CB750. They look like bicycle tires compared to the Vulcan. 300mm wide rear tires got popular on those "custom built" choppers in the '90s. But look at a REAL chopper, like Peter Fonda's bike in Easyrider, and you will see a MUCH smaller rear tire.

The front tire I originally got for my '97 Vulcan 750 from Dennis Kirk was a Bridgestone Exedra G721, which I believe was the oem tire that came on my 2002 Vulcan 750, and I got 20,000 miles out of it. It turned out to be defective (and 4 years old) and the new front tire I got to replace it with was a stock size Dunlop Elite 4. It rides fine, only time will tell how it holds up.

I installed a Bridgestone Exedra G526 in the stock size on the rear. It went on fine and feels fine. Since the front tire was 4 years old, the rear one may be too. I haven't checked. It IS the same tire that came stock on the 2002 model, and like the original front, lasted 20,000 mostly highway miles. I doubt I will ever wear these tires out, I can't do long distance riding like I used to.
 

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So a 160/90-15 rear tire would drop the freeway rpm's some? Sounds like more mileage to me. However I have not been able to locate any 160/90-15 rear tire.
Go to a 170/80-15:and a 100/90-19

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IMO, the rear tire on the Vulcan 750 is already too big, and should have probably been a 130/90-15. I suspect it was used for looks back when those big fat tires were in style. I still 100% prefer a tire with a WIDE sidewall compared to a narrow sidewall. Many of the tires they are using on newer bikes and cars pretty much have no sidewall, just tread wrapped around a HUGE diameter REEHUUM (in ghetto speak) But a really big tire on a motorcycle is heavy, and creates a lot of rolling resistance. A too big tire on the front will have a negative effect on handling. Big heavy tires are also harder to balance properly. Just look at the tires on the original CB750. They look like bicycle tires compared to the Vulcan. 300mm wide rear tires got popular on those "custom built" choppers in the '90s. But look at a REAL chopper, like Peter Fonda's bike in Easyrider, and you will see a MUCH smaller rear tire.



The front tire I originally got for my '97 Vulcan 750 from Dennis Kirk was a Bridgestone Exedra G721, which I believe was the oem tire that came on my 2002 Vulcan 750, and I got 20,000 miles out of it. It turned out to be defective (and 4 years old) and the new front tire I got to replace it with was a stock size Dunlop Elite 4. It rides fine, only time will tell how it holds up.



I installed a Bridgestone Exedra G526 in the stock size on the rear. It went on fine and feels fine. Since the front tire was 4 years old, the rear one may be too. I haven't checked. It IS the same tire that came stock on the 2002 model, and like the original front, lasted 20,000 mostly highway miles. I doubt I will ever wear these tires out, I can't do long distance riding like I used to.
Comparing Henry Fonda's chopper or a first generation cb 750 to any motorcycle made after 1980 is like comparing grapes to the empire State building. A 140 tire isn't really that wide, as a 170 isn't either

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Rear - Upsize 170/80 - 15
Front - Upsize 110/90 - 19
https://www.vn750.com/forum/27-wheels-suspension-brakes/19864-pics-upsize-stock-tires-side-side-7.html

This isn't a huge increase in tire weight, we're not talking Super Swampers.

I've always up-sized when I bought new tires, never regretted it, even on Honda CBs. The oversize that fits this bike is nowhere near 300mm which is almost 12". I've yet to see anyone say that the next size up ruined their handling, but many have said they liked the new handling.
 

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I wish I could see a side-by-side comparison of the 170/80-15 next to the 150/90/15. If that's what you run Spockster then I know it'll fit mine as mine still has the factory tire-to-fender clearance.

I'm also curious about the difference in tire weights.

The main thrust behind making such a change for me is to get better freeway MPG/range.
 
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