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It's missing some of the lighting rules for Ohio. A lot of illegal bikes here.
 

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Thanks Doug... I put TN (my state) in my documents motorcycle file...
Thanks and have a good one...Old Dog...
 

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It's missing some of the lighting rules for Ohio. A lot of illegal bikes here.
Some rules that one HEARS are not rules that are in the book.
For instance in Tx. turn signals are not a requirement. Yet one hears remarks like if it was made with them they need to be on the bike and working. Not true that is not what the safety book says. As a matter of fact it doesn't even mention turn signals on bikes at all.
Mufflers is another area that is missunderstood because of the no noise limit. A muffler is required, but noise level is not checked.
Ride on loud Texans. lol
 

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I have the book. My wife is studying for her endorsement. It states there is a limit of two headlights on a motorcycle here. So legally lightbars can be an issue. Depending on whether the law calls them headlights or driving lights. With a limit of 15" from seat to handgrip level. Apehangers are not permitted.
 

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You are right on, on that. The head light is the big one, the other two are smaller and they are driving light as you said. Some bikes do have two big head lights.
 

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Some rules that one HEARS are not rules that are in the book.
For instance in Tx. turn signals are not a requirement. Yet one hears remarks like if it was made with them they need to be on the bike and working. Not true that is not what the safety book says. As a matter of fact it doesn't even mention turn signals on bikes at all.
Mufflers is another area that is missunderstood because of the no noise limit. A muffler is required, but noise level is not checked.
Ride on loud Texans. lol

No turn signals required in Texas???????????? Thats dangerous isent it!
 

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doesnt have the new lighting law for PA... cant remember the house bill exactly...
 

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ahh house bill 901
 

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It's pretty sloppy here in Nebraska, tractors and bycycles having no lights on, a terrible crash that would be and have been for many a motorcyclist, one rider had his head cut off hitting a tractor with no lights, they call that a road accident, it's murder man plain and simple. I dont get it, you need no lights on these vehicle's, and then if you crash into them. it's your fault?? Man , lets clean up these laws a bit and make us a bit safer. :doh::doh:
 

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No turn signals required in Texas???????????? Thats dangerous isent it!
I have a training manual from a Calgary, Alberta mc rider training school that advocates using hand signals after activating the turn indcator signal lights. Their reasoning is that many motorists do not see the signal lights, but do seem to notice the arm movement and perceive it as more aggressive by the rider, and back off a bit. The more riders who use manual signals on a regular basis, will help to familiarize motorists, especially younger ones, to what they mean. So even though I would prefer to have signal lights, consistant use of hand signals may not be any less safe for our bike riding brothers in Texas.
 

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I have a training manual from a Calgary, Alberta mc rider training school that advocates using hand signals after activating the turn indcator signal lights. Their reasoning is that many motorists do not see the signal lights, but do seem to notice the arm movement and perceive it as more aggressive by the rider, and back off a bit. The more riders who use manual signals on a regular basis, will help to familiarize motorists, especially younger ones, to what they mean. So even though I would prefer to have signal lights, consistant use of hand signals may not be any less safe for our bike riding brothers in Texas.
Thats very true, but who uses hand signals? Most of them around here in a car will think you are waving at them, they havent got a clue about driving rules, it's so easy to get a liscence, you drive around the block and thats about it, i like a tighter standard myself.
You should see them, texing eachother, cell phoning, playing with things, eating, drinking, swerving all over the place. I had a fellow come into my lane not long ago, he was reading the newspaper, when he saw me heading his way, in my lane, he nudged the wheel right and continued reading. That's first class bullshit as far as i am concerned and needs to be banned, i could have been killed, and dident get to read the news, WTF.
They would have called that a Motorcycle accident!
 

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Many states have what can generally be called a "driving while distracted" regulation. Trouble is, the cops have to 1. see it, and 2. be willing to enforce it. Most folks' attention becomes very focused the moment they realize a cop is any where near them. The phone, burger, newspaper, book, etc., go out of sight quickly.

I did have a state trooper ticket an 18 wheeler that was tailgating me on a twisty, two lane road. The speed limit wasn't enough for the truck driver and he was crowding me so he could pass the moment he saw enough of a straight stretch to try it. By the time he saw the trooper, it was too late for him to back off.
 

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I have a training manual from a Calgary, Alberta mc rider training school that advocates using hand signals after activating the turn indcator signal lights. Their reasoning is that many motorists do not see the signal lights, but do seem to notice the arm movement and perceive it as more aggressive by the rider, and back off a bit. The more riders who use manual signals on a regular basis, will help to familiarize motorists, especially younger ones, to what they mean. So even though I would prefer to have signal lights, consistant use of hand signals may not be any less safe for our bike riding brothers in Texas.
Thats very true, but who uses hand signals? Most of them around here in a car will think you are waving at them, they havent got a clue about driving rules, it's so easy to get a liscence, you drive around the block and thats about it, i like a tighter standard myself.
You should see them, texing eachother, cell phoning, playing with things, eating, drinking, swerving all over the place. I had a fellow come into my lane not long ago, he was reading the newspaper, when he saw me heading his way, in my lane, he nudged the wheel right and continued reading. That's first class bullshit as far as i am concerned and needs to be banned, i could have been killed, and dident get to read the news, WTF.
They would have called that a Motorcycle accident!
The fact that many or most drivers are not used to seeing hand signals, is the very reason we should all be using them. It would only take observing hand signals used properly a few times for even a thick headed cager to figure out that it was not a wave.

Using both lights and hand signals may be redundant, but if it gives me a small extra degree of safety, I will take it.
 

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Many states have what can generally be called a "driving while distracted" regulation. Trouble is, the cops have to 1. see it, and 2. be willing to enforce it. Most folks' attention becomes very focused the moment they realize a cop is any where near them. The phone, burger, newspaper, book, etc., go out of sight quickly.

I did have a state trooper ticket an 18 wheeler that was tailgating me on a twisty, two lane road. The speed limit wasn't enough for the truck driver and he was crowding me so he could pass the moment he saw enough of a straight stretch to try it. By the time he saw the trooper, it was too late for him to back off.
Thats very true flight, glad to see the trucker got busted,
i'm a commie eh?:rockon:
 

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The fact that many or most drivers are not used to seeing hand signals, is the very reason we should all be using them. It would only take observing hand signals used properly a few times for even a thick headed cager to figure out that it was not a wave.

Using both lights and hand signals may be redundant, but if it gives me a small extra degree of safety, I will take it.
Why not use the signal light, signal with one hand, and wave with the other, that should get their attention...:rockon:...
Aww the devil made me do it again...lol...
Have a good one...Old Dog...
 

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Using both lights and hand signals may be redundant, but if it gives me a small extra degree of safety, I will take it.
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Both lights and both hands At the same time??They call them HAZZARDS around here! LOL:rockon::rockon::rockon:
 

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Some rules that one HEARS are not rules that are in the book.
For instance in Tx. turn signals are not a requirement. Yet one hears remarks like if it was made with them they need to be on the bike and working. Not true that is not what the safety book says. As a matter of fact it doesn't even mention turn signals on bikes at all.
Mufflers is another area that is missunderstood because of the no noise limit. A muffler is required, but noise level is not checked.
Ride on loud Texans. lol
What most people don't understand is that even when state law does not specifically address an issue, Federal standards do. For example, noisy pipes. The EPA is the body that places restrictions on the pollutants and noise level allowed on a specific vehicle (not just bikes). DOT is the body who mandates the rules for lighting. So while your state does not have a specific requirement about an itme, you should also check the FED regs to see what they are. In the case of the tractor, since that is not a vehicle normally used "on road" I think that is up to the states and not spelled out in fed law.
 

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Does anyone know the Spanish version of hand signals? I never have understood why they offer the written driving test here in Texas in Spanish. So you can't read enough English to pass the test. Uhh, last time I checked, all the road signs down here were in English.

Oh well, I guess the real blame is with the auto and motorcycle manufacturers. Shouldn't they have an option, like press 1 for English, when you insert the key?
 
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