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Great write up ! WTG ! :smiley_th
 

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Well put. Here's my comment on it:

Those people who want to live in a country where guns are prohibited by the government can come on over and live in Mexico. I'm sure they'll love to see how only drug lords and their minions own guns and no law-abiding citizen can defend him/herself or their family. Call 911? Sure, just tell the attacker to hold on for a few minutes while the police get there.
 

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There was actually this mayor at a small city in a state that is widely overrun with drug related crime, who proposed that the government let the people have guns to defend themselves against the criminals, stating that they didn't have enough police elements or soldiers to help them. His proposal was completely denied by the higher-ups, saying that arming the people was not the answer, that violence will only get more violence and blah blah blah...

It is quite known that most (if not all) higher up politicians (going all the way to the president) have deals with the drug cartels to let them operate freely and they obviously get some big payouts. So obviously, it's not in their best interest to arm the people.

In that particular area, criminals just show up at someone's property and demand that they leave and sign over the ownership of the place to them. Refuse? They start killing your family until you agree or you die as well and then they just take it anyway.

This is the kind of outcome that you get when you disarm honest people.

There was this case a few years ago, when a bunch of crooks went to this old guy's property and demanded he signed over his land to them. They told him they'd be back the day after for the documents. So this old guy just told every one of his workers to not go to work that day, that they had the day off to enjoy themselves. Next day, he locked himself in his house and laid out a few rifles (that he used for hunting) on each side of his house. When the criminals came, he greeted them with gunfire. He took down a few of them (I think around 5 or 6, can't remember) until they took out some grenades and killed him with them.

Now, I'm sure that if every citizen was as brave as this old guy (and as armed, too) the criminals would think twice about showing up and just demanding to take over someone's property.

This old guy deserved to be recognized, to become a national hero for standing up against the criminals that run our country. But his story never reached the national news. I'm sure the politicians don't want other people to take up his example, cause they'd be screwed. Very few people knew about him and most have probably forgotten him by now. But not me.

His name was Alejo Garza Tamez, he was 77 years old and he fought like any of the best soldiers Mexico has ever had (and we did use to have GREAT soldiers once upon a time).

So to sum up all this ranting... never let the government take away your right to own guns and defend yourselves. It might be a good thing for them, but never for the people.
 

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Very cool brother, very cool ! :smiley_th

I used to write to the Warwick Advertiser (sister paper), then gave up....

...and as far as Im concered, in my neighborhood, I AM 911, lol...
 

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So to sum up all this ranting... never let the government take away your right to own guns and defend yourselves. It might be a good thing for them, but never for the people.

Thank You Ceal.

WilliamTech :smiley_th
 

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Good letter Mercury.

And Ceal, a lot of people out there needed to read your response too.

Maybe you've all heard this one...

The average response time Of A 911 call is 23 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.

I'm glad we have the Castle Law here, and it needs to stay no matter what.
 

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thank both of you Ceal and Mercury.i could not have said it better myself.
 

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Good letter Mercury.

And Ceal, a lot of people out there needed to read your response too.

Maybe you've all heard this one...

The average response time Of A 911 call is 23 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.

I'm glad we have the Castle Law here, and it needs to stay no matter what.
Hey, didn't we cover this before? That's a response rate, not time. :)
Response time (in seconds) would be distance to target (in feet) / 1400 :smiley_th
 

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Good letter Mercury.

And Ceal, a lot of people out there needed to read your response too.

Maybe you've all heard this one...

The average response time Of A 911 call is 23 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.

I'm glad we have the Castle Law here, and it needs to stay no matter what.
very true!

just remember.....when SECONDS count, the police are only MINUTES away!
 

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I like to write to the thumbs up / thumbs down, and I write letters to the editor. Keeps me active during winter months. I had 1600 words, they emailed me back and said I had to cut it down. 500 is what the standard letter to the editor is. But they have this special thing called 'My Turn' a few times a month I think - that is allowed to be about 800 words. Thats where I ended up. It was cool to get posted, I had lots more points, but the majority of it went through.

thanks all!

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so you are from West Milford?i grew up in Hardyston.nice area down there.miss it
 

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There was actually this mayor at a small city in a state that is widely overrun with drug related crime, who proposed that the government let the people have guns to defend themselves against the criminals, stating that they didn't have enough police elements or soldiers to help them. His proposal was completely denied by the higher-ups, saying that arming the people was not the answer, that violence will only get more violence and blah blah blah...

It is quite known that most (if not all) higher up politicians (going all the way to the president) have deals with the drug cartels to let them operate freely and they obviously get some big payouts. So obviously, it's not in their best interest to arm the people.

In that particular area, criminals just show up at someone's property and demand that they leave and sign over the ownership of the place to them. Refuse? They start killing your family until you agree or you die as well and then they just take it anyway.

This is the kind of outcome that you get when you disarm honest people.

There was this case a few years ago, when a bunch of crooks went to this old guy's property and demanded he signed over his land to them. They told him they'd be back the day after for the documents. So this old guy just told every one of his workers to not go to work that day, that they had the day off to enjoy themselves. Next day, he locked himself in his house and laid out a few rifles (that he used for hunting) on each side of his house. When the criminals came, he greeted them with gunfire. He took down a few of them (I think around 5 or 6, can't remember) until they took out some grenades and killed him with them.

Now, I'm sure that if every citizen was as brave as this old guy (and as armed, too) the criminals would think twice about showing up and just demanding to take over someone's property.

This old guy deserved to be recognized, to become a national hero for standing up against the criminals that run our country. But his story never reached the national news. I'm sure the politicians don't want other people to take up his example, cause they'd be screwed. Very few people knew about him and most have probably forgotten him by now. But not me.

His name was Alejo Garza Tamez, he was 77 years old and he fought like any of the best soldiers Mexico has ever had (and we did use to have GREAT soldiers once upon a time).

So to sum up all this ranting... never let the government take away your right to own guns and defend yourselves. It might be a good thing for them, but never for the people.
Yeah, and where did they get all the guns? The USA......
Drugs come north, guns and money go south....

I used to travel to Juárez for work. I would stay in a hotel in El Paso and they would send a driver to pick me up and drive me into Mexico to the plant I was working in. I had to be driven back to the USA before nightfall. The city was like a war zone.... police and army armed with rifles everywhere. Even the guy that filled the ATM machine at the plant had three armed guards with him.... After awhile you get used to guns being pointed in your direction.... scary place.
 

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Hey, didn't we cover this before? That's a response rate, not time. :)
Response time (in seconds) would be distance to target (in feet) / 1400 :smiley_th
No. I've never discussed this anywhere at any time with anyone.

I just posted the quote as I found it. Even though I knew it was worded wrong, I didn't think it was necessary to go into semantics with it.

I considered posting... The police may respond in 20 minutes, my rifle responds faster than the speed of sound. I know, semantically incorrect too.

edit: I think response time would be more like feet per second/speed of the bullet, instead of distance to target.

Anyway, the gun grabbers need to look at what has occurred where guns have been banned. But seems like they just flat refuse to, and long to be dominated by their masters.

Hell, we had rifles in gym class at my Junior High School and we could take guns to shop class to work on them. Doubt that will ever happen again.
 

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No. I've never discussed this anywhere at any time with anyone.

I just posted the quote as I found it. Even though I knew it was worded wrong, I didn't think it was necessary to go into semantics with it.

I considered posting... The police may respond in 20 minutes, my rifle responds faster than the speed of sound. I know, semantically incorrect too.
I found the thread.... http://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?p=233180#post233180

edit: I think response time would be more like feet per second/speed of the bullet, instead of distance to target.
No, that would be a unitless number (speed/speed)
feet / (feet/sec) would leave units of seconds....
It was just a joke anyway............ :)
 

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hell i remember unloading shotguns on the hood of my friend's truck in the parking lot of my high school and putting the gun on the rack in the back window and putting the shells back in the box and leaving them on the front seat.and leaving the truck unlocked.this was only 20 years ago,1990 as a matter of fact.
 

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Yeah, times have changed.... I used to carry a pocket knife on my belt all through school... nobody ever said a thing. Try that now :doh:
 

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