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The number one tip we give every new member is to replace your stock wet cell battery with a sealed gel cell battery ASAP. You will avoid a lot of starting and performance problems with this simple modification.

Suggested batteries are... look up stuff to go here...
 

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Re: Replace your stock wet cell battery for better performace

Does anyone have part numbers for the Yuasa and Wesco MF batteries?

My local shop looks at me like deer in the headlights.

I remember someone saying Sears sold them as the Die Hard, but Wesco was out of stock until July or something.

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Re: Replace your stock wet cell battery...Yuasa P#

The Yuasa High Perf Maint free battery is YXT14AHL-BS, available at a lot of places online and in stores.. Some points...
It has 20 CCA (cold cranking amps) MORE than the Westco, for abt the same money. Don't know abt any comparisons btw Sears or any other brand that might fit..
If you buy it online, it may come to you DRY (mine did), with the electrolyte. You will have to add the fluid, then charge overnite. Don't let this deter you...this is half the fun!! Some places are now filling them and shipping 'wet'.
Whichever brand you chose...get a MF asap. It will help your ride run better, and you'll be glad not to have to do one more pre-flight check...
 

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Re: Replace your stock wet cell battery...Yuasa P#

Sears has the Yuasa battery under the DieHard label (Part# 44005). Several of us have that one. Might be a tad more expensive than Westco or Yuasa direct but with no shipping charge, probably about the same. Plus the joy of instant gratifications (<singing> [/]Don't care how, I want it now![/I]) I'm looking at the instructions that came with it and it says "Yuasa Battery Inc, Reading PA"
 

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Yep, that is the one I just got. Makes all the difference in the world. Starts easier and can sit longer with out needing to worry about battery dying.
 

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Ok...So I went to Sears to buy the MF battery. OMG...it was $80! Thats just crazy insane! So then I drove all over town and found various other stores that had wet batteries for $30 or so...but I figured I should pass on them and keep looking for a MF...I mean if I buy another wet I'm just gonna end up with acid and crap all over my bike again, right?


Bleh...
 

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$80 vs $1000 for a stator replacement? How much was your junction box repair?

You can get the same Sears battery direct from Yuasa cheaper, at least through mail order/internet sales. Not as quick as walking out of Sears with it, but save a few buck. Westco batteries are also good and can be found. I think folks have recommended Batteries Plus as a source.
 

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The first thing we suggest to all new vulcan owners (new or used) is to replace the stock wet cell battery with a Sealed Glass Mat battery. It will help save your electrical system from Acid damage, greatly reduce your weekly maintenance effort for the battery (no water to check, no acid to clean up), and it will prevent bike performance problems.

The two batteries recommeded by the group are the:

WestCo (stock # 12V14L-B)
http://www.westcobattery.com/battery_page.php?bid=14&vid=1&mid=150

Yuasa YTX14AHL-BS
http://www.yuasabatteries.com

Make sure you get the sealed battery folks ,not the wet cell ones where you have to keep adding water.

Sears in some places, also carries motorcycle batteries and has the Yusa one
(#44005)

RB

More good info

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [vn750archives] WestCo and Yuasa batteriesDate: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 05:24:01 -0800 (PST)From: Vince Hancock <[email protected]>Reply-To: [email protected]o: [email protected]

[Source: Ken Eng & Dan Morgan]

Both the Westco and Yuasa MF batteries are of the AGM
technology. Yuasa has a policy of not shipping theirs
with the acid in them. After adding the acid and
sealing it up it is the same as the Westco unit. With
an AGM battery the acid is absorbed into plates and
separators inside the battery. Therefore there is no
liquid inside the battery case to leak out.

From the Westco site:
These sealed batteries are built to perform. Multiple
features like Absorbed Glass Mat technology showcase a
completely sealed and maintenance-free battery that
provides the power needed for motorcycles.

Features
Maintenance-free
Sealed design
No liquid
Zero corrosion
Absorbed glass mat technology
Resists vibration damage.
Very low self-discharge rate
Higher cold cranking amps than stock wet batteries
Extra heavy duty terminal design


From the Yuasa site:
These sealed batteries are built to perform. Multiple
features like Absorbed Glass Mat technology showcase a
completely sealed and maintenance-free battery that
provides the power needed for motorcycles.

Features
Maintenance-free
Sealed design
No liquid
Zero corrosion
Absorbed glass mat technology
Resists vibration damage.
Very low self-discharge rate
Higher cold cranking amps than stock wet batteries
Extra heavy duty terminal design

The Maintenance Free Battery
Absorbed Glass Mat (AGM) Technology is an advanced
battery design used in Yuasa's Maintenance Free
Batteries that eliminates water loss. Once it's filled
with acid the battery is permanently sealed - so
you'll never need to fill it with water or check the
acid level.

Long Life
Because of its lead calcium design, the AGM battery
will hold its specific gravity more than three times
longer than conventional lead antimony types. This
means much longer periods between ! charges when the
battery is used in a standby mode, like winter
storage.

And to remain factory-fresh the AGM battery is shipped
dry along with its own pack of high-gravity acid
that's added at the time of installation.

Sealed, Non-spillable
Once filled with acid from its special packs, the AGM
battery is virtually maintenance free. It's totally
sealed and all of the acid is absorbed in the special
plates and separators, so there is no need to worry
about acid leaks on valuable vehicle parts and
accessories.

Ken
NJ

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Actually both batteries are the SAME. The difference is that Westco fills
the battery with electrolyte and charges it before shipping it to you or the
dealer. Yuasa has you do it for them. They both use the exact same
technology. The terms used differ slightly but in all ways, the same
technology. Westco says AGM or Absorbed Gas Mat technology whereas Yuasa
says they use advanced gas recombinant technology. It's the same thing
folks. It's all a copyright thing. If both used the exact same terms, one
would be paying royalties to the other. Here's something else. Westco uses
the term "valve-regulated design" when describing their battery. Guess What?
Yuasa says the EXACT SAME THING. Let me quote from Yuasa:

"Yuasa's innovative sealed VRLA (Valve Regulated Lead Acid) batteries are a
new generation made possible by advanced gas recombinant technology. These
include the YT and YI series batteries. We refer to them as "sealed VRLA
batteries" here."

The reason the Yuasa is cheaper? They don't have to pay someone to fill and
charge the battery before shipping it out.

Dan Morgan



-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [VN750] WestCo Battery and ChargerDate: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 04:54:37 +0000From: Pete Morton <[email protected]>Reply-To: [email protected]o: [email protected]

WestCo has a 10% discount and free shipping special on purchase of a
MF battery and charger combination. See: http://tinyurl.com/236sw
(battery shown is for the VN750)

The charger charges the battery in three stages. First it charges
at 1.2A until the battery voltage reaches 14.3 volts, then maintains
14.3 volts until the charging current drops to 0.2A, and then
maintains 13.8 volts indefinitely. (The charging cycle restarts if
the charging current should increase to 0.2A.) The three-stage
charging process prevents the battery from being overcharged and
allows maintaining battery charge over extended periods of battery
non-use.

A cable is provided with the charger for permanent connection to the
battery while installed in the bike. The charger may be connected
to the cable and the battery charged without removal from the bike.

I just received mine. Looks like a good system. I'll install the
battery in the 750 tomorrow.

-Pete, 2002 VN750 solid black (salvaged)
Finksburg, MD VROC #12468
 

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WestCo 10% discount, free shipping MF battery/Charger Combo

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [VN750] WestCo Battery and ChargerDate: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 04:54:37 +0000From: Pete Morton <[email protected]>Reply-To: [email protected]To: [email protected]

WestCo has a 10% discount and free shipping special on purchase of a MF battery and charger combination. See: http://tinyurl.com/236sw
http://www.westcobattery.com/battery_page.php?bid=14&vid=1&mid=150
(battery shown is for the VN750)

The charger charges the battery in three stages. First it charges at 1.2A until the battery voltage reaches 14.3 volts, then maintains 14.3 volts until the charging current drops to 0.2A, and then maintains 13.8 volts indefinitely. (The charging cycle restarts if the charging current should increase to 0.2A.) The three-stage charging process prevents the battery from being overcharged and allows maintaining battery charge over extended periods of battery non-use.

A cable is provided with the charger for permanent connection to the battery while installed in the bike. The charger may be connected to the cable and the battery charged without removal from the bike.

I just received mine. Looks like a good system. I'll install the battery in the 750 tomorrow.

-Pete, 2002 VN750 solid black (salvaged)
Finksburg, MD VROC #12468
 

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Walmart has a schumacher <SPELL> that does basically the same thing with a permanent plug as well. 1.5 amp, 14.something volts, then to 13.2 for indefinate period. will also restart if loaded.
less than 20.00

I like mine.
 

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Hey:

Thanks for this info. I literally saw this while working in my cage, (wireless internet RULES!!), and jumped onto the Westco site and ordered it on the spot.

Arrived four days later ready to go. Even fully charged.

Ran it almost all the way down before I realizesd what my problem was.

Not the R/R, or the Stator. Seems like some idiod, (me) put on a neon license plate frame, and it just dawnwed on me that it was likely sucking more amperage than my weak electrical system was putting out. Duh!!

Anyway, I swapped it for the stock light, and even put LED tail/brake lights in to cut the draw.

Lesson learned.

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Got the Die Hard (Part# 44005) yesterday. Filled with Electrolyte, charged overnight, installed this morning, and the VN rolled over nice and easy for the first time started in 2 weeks. It started so easily I wasn't even sure it had started.

When the guys saying to get the MF sealed battery claimed it made the bike run better, I didn't believe them. I mean, what can a battery have to do with how a bike ran after it was started? Am I crazy that I thought my Vulcan ran better than ever today or does the better voltage make that much a difference?
 

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The better "more consistent" voltage makes that much of a difference, yes!
And. no more worries about acid spills or taking time out to take the seat off to check battery levels. (Means more riding time then!)
 

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I found the same thing when I replaced the wet cell in my Savage with an MF battery. I had been having trouble getting it started, and after installing the MF, it started first time every time, and really did run better overall. It really helped that it was there when I sold it, too. Impressed the buyer that I had gone the extra mile to maintain the bike. I got my asking price with no haggling.
I guess that I threw in the extra oil filters and the back rest didn't hurt either.
 

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simple reason really, the MF battery has less internal resistance, whitch means the voltage is concistant as previously mentioned. when starter motor runs, there is still a higher voltage output than the same size wet battery. also when your ignition needs more power, the voltage doesnt drop either.
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Just replaced the stock battery after two months of frustration, with the sears part #44005, so far so good. What a world of difference. If things keep going as good as they did this weekend, I may actually build up alot of coinfidence about the bike starting warm or cold. Thanks very much for the info it is greatly appreciated.


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2005 Vulcan
 

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Yes guys , I had replaced my 6 month old (?) Yuasa Battery for a New Yuasa Dry FM Yuasa YTX14AHL-BS in my VN 750 /1990
, and surprise,,, all starting problems dessapear magically ( cold , hot , warm ,,),, no doubts .
I recommend strongly , but ,,, when I try to put the new battery inside the battery box , the battery result 1/2 inch greater , and so i had to cut the box holder and enlarge it adding by welding strips of metal plate , and finally bolting the box to the frame from outside instead from inside ( clear,,, or not )
Good Luck Vulcaneers
 

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I finally bit the bullett. I spent $70.00 and bought an Interstate sealed battery for my 85 VN700. I went with interstate because of the 5 calls I made to Sears, Wal Mart, and 2 other places that deal exclusively in batteries, the people at Interstate were the only folks that understood what I meant by Maintenance Free. One guy even explained his understanding of M/F by stating "once you put it in the bike, you don't have to do anything to it". Although the battery he wanted to sell me had a vent tube. hmmmmmm. Another said, "bring your battery down, I'm sure we can find something that will fit".
So I put in the electrolite (acid), and charged her up. Installed it, and pressed the starter button. I didn't even hear it turn over before the bike was running. Nice :). I had the stater replaced last year, and the rectifier. I hope this will be the end of my electrical problems.
This is the start of the riding season here in Maine. We already have a ride planned to go to a place called "Hight of Land" in the Rangely Lakes area. I'm hoping it all goes well.

Ride Safe
Wayne :)
 

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I finally bit the bullett. I spent $70.00 and bought an Interstate sealed battery for my 85 VN700. I went with interstate because of the 5 calls I made to Sears, Wal Mart, and 2 other places that deal exclusively in batteries, the people at Interstate were the only folks that understood what I meant by Maintenance Free. One guy even explained his understanding of M/F by stating "once you put it in the bike, you don't have to do anything to it". Although the battery he wanted to sell me had a vent tube. hmmmmmm. Another said, "bring your battery down, I'm sure we can find something that will fit".
So I put in the electrolite (acid), and charged her up. Installed it, and pressed the starter button. I didn't even hear it turn over before the bike was running. Nice :). I had the stater replaced last year, and the rectifier. I hope this will be the end of my electrical problems.
This is the start of the riding season here in Maine. We already have a ride planned to go to a place called "Hight of Land" in the Rangely Lakes area. I'm hoping it all goes well.

Ride Safe
Wayne :)
Wayne...this will be the best $70 you've spent on you're ride (so far!).
I'm pretty sure the Interstate is made by Yuasa/Exide....could you post the battery number when you get the chance??
For x-reference...
 
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