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putting family at ease as new riders

I would value any input\stories on constructively promoting an apprehensive wive's openness to riding. Any thoughts experiences you can share beyond taking MSF courses (starting that later this month myself)

I am a cautious, responsible adult - my wife already knows\agrees. The usual "I don't trust others out there" .. Do defensive riding courses exist?

Unfortunately we both know people injured and killed in car and motorcycle alike.

Any success stories of family being "won over"? If my case it took time but my wife learned to be A-OK with my firearms interest and shooting hobby.
 

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I would value any input\stories on constructively promoting an apprehensive wive's openness to riding. Any thoughts experiences you can share beyond taking MSF courses (starting that later this month myself)

I am a cautious, responsible adult - my wife already knows\agrees. The usual "I don't trust others out there" .. Do defensive riding courses exist?

Unfortunately we both know people injured and killed in car and motorcycle alike.

Any success stories of family being "won over"? If my case it took time but my wife learned to be A-OK with my firearms interest and shooting hobby.
Anyone can get hurt or worse at any time under the most innocent of circumstances. It is just a fact of life. Do you increase your chances of an accident while riding a motorcycle? Yes, big time. People refuse to look for cycles, they don't care for cycle riders and then when we have minor situations we have minimal if any protection around us. With all that said, riding is one of the most exciting and enjoyable things you can do that is still legal. My wife was against it but about four or five years ago (I am just a few months short of 63) I went and took the course and have been riding ever since. She knows how much I love to ride and has decided it is better than some of the other things I could have taken up. We just don't mention that I do those things also so all is good for now.
 

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Hell you can die eating a slice of pizza
 

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I would value any input\stories on constructively promoting an apprehensive wive's openness to riding. Any thoughts experiences you can share beyond taking MSF courses (starting that later this month myself)

I am a cautious, responsible adult - my wife already knows\agrees. The usual "I don't trust others out there" .. Do defensive riding courses exist?

Unfortunately we both know people injured and killed in car and motorcycle alike.

Any success stories of family being "won over"? If my case it took time but my wife learned to be A-OK with my firearms interest and shooting hobby.
"Do defensive riding courses exist?" ......Hmm, interesting question.....I have never thought about it that way. I have no idea. the only classes that I know of are the MSC. I wouldn't call them "defensive riding courses". but who knows, maybe there are defensive riding courses out there.

truth be told, you are more likely safer on the range than you are on the road riding a motorcycle. shh, just don't tell your wife that. :wink2:

funny thing is with my wife, she is the reason I got a motorcycle and I got her to ride her own! but, when it came to guns and range time.....OH BOY, you'd think the world was going to end!

it took decades, but she has come around a little about guns and range time. she has even gone a few times with me.
 

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Ride like the world is out do give you a dirt nap
 
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I've been on the road riding bikes since I was 16 (27 years ago). Yes there are risks riding a motorcycle, I've had friends killed or seriously injured and I've been hurt a few times myself. You just need to by extra vigilant and as already stated be in the mindset that every other road user is a complete idiot and assume nothing.

My Mother bought me my first field bike at 7 years old and I've never looked back, motorcycles are a massive part of my life, always have been and also will.
My wife is always worried when I go out for a ride, she has no interest in motorcycles, but she knows that riding motorcycles is what I do and always have done and wouldn't try to stop me riding.

I have battled cancer twice and I'm recovering from the latest bout... You are a long time dead and none of us can predict the future... as Doc said, you could die eating a slice of Pizza!

If taking courses etc helps put your wife's mind at ease then do them ;)
 

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Ride like the world is out do give you a dirt nap
As my signature line says, "Ride till you rot!" There is real truth in those words.
 
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ok, after a quick search on the web, I found these:

STAY ALIVE DEFENSIVE MOTORCYCLE TRAINING ACADEMY - Home

https://www.defensivedriving.com/blog/motorcycle-safety/

Defensive Driving Online Course from National Safety Council - Motorcycle

so to answer your question, "Do defensive riding courses exist?", I would have to say "yes.", but, since we don't know were you are from, we have no idea if any are in your area. that, my friend, you will have to look into yourself. but, they are out there! so there you go. ride safe. :smile2:
 

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I'm not giving up the pizza. I may as well learn to ride, and enjoy it..

besides my wife has to know I can't\won't jump as deep into this as I did with firearms. Talk about expensive training between travel, using 500-1k of ammo per class and the class cost itself - well worth it.

Thanks for the info.
 

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Motorcycles are more dangerous than cars.... If you have no real experience riding one, you should ask yourself how well will your family be off if you were to get killed?
Weigh your desire to ride over the thought of your children having no father.

This is something you have to decide on your own, and asking folks here to try and convince your wife "you'll be alright" is the one thing no one here can really promise her.

So at least , I for one .....won't ....
 

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It ain't about the destination, its about how much fun you have getting there.I'd much rather die with a smile on my face then some miserable ****.
 

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make it happen...

Like KM said, i dont think anyone here is going to tell you it is save. the statistics are staggering! you can never control everyone else on the road with you. however, you have to ride with confidence or you are going to hurt yourself before someone else does. likewise, you passenger has to be confident in their riding ability and knowledge.

i do have a bit of a success story though. My GF was scared of the motorcycle. so i bought her a helmet. she was surprised and scared. we went out last summer and the first several times we went out we only went around the block. she was getting used to being a passenger and i was teaching her how to be a better passenger. eventually we got on a street with heavier traffic, but only for a few blocks. when i felt comfortable with her as a passenger, one day i just got on the highway. she was scared but didnt freak out. she loves riding now. she is still scared and i am scared to death about having to make a call to her parents. but we are having fun. she will never ride her own bike (so she says), but we are looking forward to getting out of the city, on the bike, this summer.

now everyone is different, and "throwing someone in the deep end" isnt the best way to go about it for everyone, but for my GF it worked. i spent money on a helmet, she got on the bike. and we went super slow with learning and with speed. i think that is about as successful and one can be!

good luck.
 
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Well if coming home with a helmet got her on the back of the bike,come home with a bike;)
 

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ODD, fair point! Maybe I'll try it. ?
 

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If she doesn't ride it you now have two bikes.it's a win/win;)
 

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I would value any input\stories on constructively promoting an apprehensive wive's openness to riding. Any thoughts experiences you can share beyond taking MSF courses (starting that later this month myself) . . .
Long time ago, back in my twenties, even since riding bikes since i was in my teens, there i was doing about 35 in a 40 on a turn-lane divided 5 lane city street just sort of putting along since was only heading about a mile or so away. I was taking a pal of mine home, was in the right lane of the two. . . putt putt putt on my 450...

came over a small hill and about 30 yards away was a pickem-up truck stopped broadside across both lanes.

With the extra weight and well accustomed to my bike, i had two choices. Try and stop without hitting it. Or go around it. The former choice was obviously going to fail, so, i chose the latter.

I remember putting my foot down on the left side because this was going to be a hard "dirt bike" sort of swerve i would need, and sure enough that little bit helped do the trick.

I was just able to get around into the center turn-lane and straighten her out and the last thing i can remember even to this day was looking to the right as i passed behind the truck thinking to myself, "daayyyyyumm... that was a close one, shoooooo".

According to some people ( bikers ) behind far enough back to observe what happened, i got around the back of the truck just before he started peeling rubber in reverse, they heard a real loud crack and i ended up sailing across the street where i landed on my head ( no helmet by the way since i gave it to my passenger ), while my passenger went sliding another 70 yards ( according to the cops ) with the bike on top of his leg.

So, long story short, because we had both died ( according to the ambulance and hospital ) when i woke up in a bed, there were two real ugly cops standing there asking me what happened. Then they told me i was being charged with murder. Great story so far, huh? Fortunately, my friend got out of critical care and they had to drop the charges. Oh... there is a point to this story, right....

I no longer "drive" a bike. I ride like i feel like it and it is *COMMON* in these parts to have some high-strung pick up truck pull right into the same lane ( blind spot? who knows ) and i am quite accustomed to dealing with such things at a moments notice since i *RIDE* my bike like a dirt bike with "moving car shaped trees". I will ignore any law, rule, common courtesy, or "what ever", that i feel like any time i feel like for whatever reason i feel like without mandatory advanced notice.

I never drink. I never dope. I never smoke the weed. But this is Los Angeles and EVERYONE ELSE DOES. Make sense? Great! There was a news story on TV last week about hit-and-run accidents in this area. The statistic was 1 every 18 minutes and that included a hefty percentage of PEDESTRIANS. ( anyone want pizza yet? )

So,... right, yeah, i am sure i will get flamed for writing this ( yet again ) but i'd rather say it like it is from my perspective than give anyone even the inkling that little words on paper are anything close to riding a bike in reality.

Did i mention the time the trucker out on a divided highway, just me and him, nobody else around, decided to drive into the shoulder at full speed just long enough to purposely spray chat all over me just because i was on a bike? yeah...

Moral of the story... "safe" is an illusion. Forget about about it and enjoy life.

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I think it all starts with a defensive riding mindset.. Like mentioned, Always be on the look out for A holes... One good thing is bikes meneuver better than cars... Take the course, always have an out lane.. But i'm new to this so what do i know.. My wifes knows i'm happy when i ride so she doesn't get on me too much.. i wear my helmet, gloves, and need to get a orange vest .. Can't be too safe right..

cheers
 
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