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I just got this bike running after sitting for 19 years, but the bike is stuck in neutral. There is no horizontal movement, and the shifter springs back. Here's a video. https://vimeo.com/344110414
 

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If the shifter springs back, it's probably not the spring, but maybe the pawl itself is kicked out of place.

Edit: Section 8-20 of the download manual... There's a shift cover with four bolts, but it says to pull the bevel gear first. No need to pull the engine to see the shift pawl.
 

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So what you're telling me is that there's a chance the engine won't come out, right?!
 

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So what you're telling me is that there's a chance the engine won't come out, right?!
Edit: Section 8-20 of the download manual... There's a shift cover with four bolts, but it says to pull the bevel gear first. No need to pull the engine to see the shift pawl.
 

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I will get a better video in a little bit, over my lunch break. I am hoping there might be other options to try/inspect before pulling the engine? If the engine comes out, I can use the opportunity to paint it black... so at least there’s a silver lining


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Another idea ... The rear splines could be stripped out. Should still feel the shifter going into first though.
 

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I will try rocking it. There is 0 engagement on the shifter, and by that, I mean you cannot feel it start to engage. It does click, pop or creak. I will try rocking it and warming it up once I get home, and send a video. I have not seen any threads with a similar problem, so this should interesting!
 

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Hopefully these will show what’s going on. There’s about a 1/16th” of horizontal play. Rocking does nothing and warming up doesn’t do anything.
https://vimeo.com/344155831


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Second video. The rear cylinder is leaking coolant pretty badly from where the hose comes into the cylinder.
https://vimeo.com/344158081


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I think, maybe, the spring is in place, the internal linkage rod is intact, but the pawl itself is rocked sideways on the shift drum.

Edit: Section 8-20 of the download manual... There's a shift cover with four bolts, but it says to pull the bevel gear first. No need to pull the engine to see the shift pawl. (incorrect info removed by me)

These shifters can't take any abuse at all, stomping the shifter is a definite no-no. Just falling off the kickstand is enough.

And the horizontal movement is fine, retainer clip is apparently in place.
 

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So hypothetically speaking, I can jockey the pawl back in the right location?


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Wait, wait ... Stop. I told you wrong about pulling the engine and stator case. Section 8-20 of the download manual... There's a shift cover with four bolts, but it says to pull the bevel gear first. No need to pull the engine to see the shift pawl.

Going back in this thread to edit.


So hypothetically speaking, I can jockey the pawl back in the right location?


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Yes, hopefully. No promises. :)

In this thread, the original post, it was stuck in neutral and wouldn't shift to 1st, then the internal rod broke later.

https://www.vn750.com/forum/26-tran...-stuck-neutral-will-not-shift-first-gear.html

 

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There's been a couple of threads starting out like this, but we never got the rest of the story, if I recall.
 

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Wait, wait ... Stop. I told you wrong about pulling the engine and stator case. Section 8-20 of the download manual... There's a shift cover with four bolts, but it says to pull the bevel gear first. No need to pull the engine to see the shift pawl.

Going back in this thread to edit.




Yes, hopefully. No promises. :)

In this thread, the original post, it was stuck in neutral and wouldn't shift to 1st, then the internal rod broke later.

https://www.vn750.com/forum/26-tran...-stuck-neutral-will-not-shift-first-gear.html

I just changed the oil, but I will see if I can't get it cracked open tonight! I just found this thread, and on the second page, it seems that he was able to put the pin back in it's place (https://www.vn750.com/forum/26-transmission-rear-end/10507-shifter-stuck-neutral.html). I have not bought the Calmyer's (spelling) book yet, but I downloaded the shop manual and the owner's manual. I will see if this information is in one of those two places. Unfortunately, there were no photos taken of the post where this guy fixed the same problem rather easily, with no additional parts.
 

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8-22 in the d'load manual - In the drawing, it shows that odd shaped clip than can slip out of place on the pawl. The clip is stamped spring steel.

8-22 page 154 - part #4

If you're lucky, that clip is out of place.

Move the shifter while touching the shift cover. If you can detect movement in there, the internal shift rod isn't broken.
 

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I am going to crack into it tonight (Gott will es) and if so, I will take lots of photos.


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I don’t know what kind of witchcraft was used to get this cover off, but here is my spring.




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https://vimeo.com/344216420
The pawl is like 1mm away from touching the spindle. I did shift a gear then change it back with a screw driver.


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Deleted - I was looking at the wrong shaft when I posted here.
 
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