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IBEW 915 Electrician
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Is possible to turn back the miles an a VN750? I'm not asking how. I just want to know if it is possible. I thought the speedo was sealed but I think someone turned back the speedo on a VN750. Maybe they changed out the speedo. A friend of mine found out the true mileage after a sale from a dealer in NC.
 

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It is possible to do it. Even though the speedo is sealed it can be cut open and resealed after that. I wouldn't recommend doing it though. It's like the speedo on my bike says 4k miles, but the speedo cable quit working on the bike in the early 90's and the owner told me how many miles were apx on the bike.
 

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First, I think it is illegal to turn back milage on any vehicle... Your friend might be able to get some recovery from the dealer if he pushed, that dealer needs some attitude adjustment anyway, if he rolled it back...
That said, you might be able to use a drill in reverse on the drive cable, but that would probably take a while to get a bunch off...
Have a good one...Old Dog...
 

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2 ways to rewind the mileage. Get yourself a flux-capacitor and some trash to go back and get your bike when it was newer or as you said get a speedo with fewer miles on it. lol

Seriously though it IS illegal to turn back the mileage on anything. It's called fraud! Your friend should go to the DMV and get the title and paperwork with the actual mileage for the bike and take the STEALERSHIP down a peg. That is one good thing about the DMV, every year when you register your vehicle they take the actual mileage so people can't deceive someone when they resell it.

Hey didn't we have a lawyer on this forum somewhere? He would be the go to guy.
 

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Here in Tenn., I don't think they ask about milage when you renew your registration, I think maybe when it is first registered you may have to have a signed statement...
I know I just get the letter from the state about 30 days in advance, and take it down to the County clerks office and give them the green and they give me a sticker & registration papers, and all is over till next year...lol...
You can mail the money to the state also... I think you do have to sign a statement (form) when you sell a vehicle as to the actual milage though...
Reguardless, it is illegal to tamper or run an odometer back...:hitanykey... The car lot should be kicked in the tail, one way or another...
Have a good one...Old Dog...
 

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In cars you are required to put a sticker in the driver's door jam that notes the previous mileage and the mileage on the replacement odometer, sign and date. Not sure where you afix it on a motorcycle though.
 

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This is a good question which made me go to ebay and check speedo's. I've found used speedo's there with miles ranging from 8,000, to 57,000 miles. Baldy (above) hit it right on the head with the DMV check. This makes sense here in New York as we must register our bikes with DMV on a yearly basis. But then again... I'm not so sure "if" its mandatory for vehicles/bikes over 10 years old to submit mileage? (this is my first bike)

I am now looking at my title and it states: "Odometer Reading: Exempt/Vehicle Over 10 Years Old" WOW! This sucks! I now have something else to add to my list of skepticism for future vehicular purchases...
Here in Maine every vehicle you register no matter how old, your required to give current mileage but if the odometer is not working they have a form to fill out. Vehicles before 93' don't require a title but you can still investigate with the DMV if you think the mileage has been messed around with.

Another way to investigate a future purchase would be carfax or some other means for the vehicles history. I had a friend buy an older car that was said to have never been in an accident but after finding a few odd things with the car he did a history check and found out the car was totaled. He went to the DMV and reported the seller/dealer and got his money back without any problems. That is why people say buyer beware, So many places out there waiting to screw you.
 

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I don't know a Carfax equivalent for motorcycles. If an insurance company was involve then a report may be available.
 

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And an insurance payout for a motorcycle may not be very meaningful. We have a local dealership that buys bikes from insurance co's that have been "totalled" because they were stollen and recovered after the required amount of time to pay the bike out. Sometimes they have to replace the lock cylinder but othertimes there is absolutely no damage. You probably wouldn't bother buying full coverage for a $2K car but its reasonable for a $2K bike.

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It is illegal here in Illinois to turn back the mileage on any vehicle, but after a certain age of the vehicle the DMV doesn't ask about the mileage anymore even when you first register it. Like I said with my bike the speedo cable was broke and the previous owner didn't want to replace the cable which is fine with me, and he was nice to let me know the appx. mileage on the bike. It does work in strange ways the way people mess with the odometer on vehicles. Sadly for them now the odometers are going electric and those can't be changed. I think it is really funny.
 

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I don't know if the dealer was informed by the seller of the discrepancy. The dealer could have been ignorant of the bike's history when the bike was sold on consignment. Outside of the mileage problem the bike seems well cared for from what he says. My own experience tells me that shiny, used bikes need closer inspection than grimy ones. When I bought my '01 I had several hundred dollars to put into it before it ran right. The guy I bought it from kept it in a storage building and it was very clean. When I got it to the house I found that the foam air filters were disintegrated and who knows how much of the filters found its way into the carbs. It was shiny, though. I don't think any one looked at the oil or the air filters in the 10.3K miles of the bike's life. But it was shiny. It's also a keeper.

When I sold my Ninja 500 on consignment I was asked for the title and required to pay a $45.00 fee for the bike checkout. There was a 15% commission on the sale and the buyer was given 40 miles to figure out if something was wrong.

If my buddy pursues this he may have a problem while the dealer and the owner point fingers at each other. I have found if you buy a used bike keep your quest limited to bikes under 10K miles, personal preference based on an experience of having purchased a bike, one owner, with 35K on it and watch it deteriorate at a rapid rate. A neighbor bought it and it is now a project bike.
 
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