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I have 2009 vulcan classic..lost key tried wiring it wouldnt work also fuse box got ripped off ....how can I start my bike done alotcwiring I can get everything on but not fuel pump can directly but still no start ..I know li messed up but I cant not afforded a ignition I'm broke trying to get it running been stuck for 2 months now ....how can I get it to run till I can afford the right stuff please help any advice would be greatly appreciated thank yall for u time
 

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Sorry to hear that you're stuck. This forum is dedicated to the 750, which has completely different wiring, and doesn't even have a fuel pump, so there's not much we can do here to help you.
 

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Sounds like it has fuel injection, so the computer has to be wired just right for it to run. A lot of sensors have to all be happy, ...crank sensor, temperature and throttle, o2,...etc.

Look for the stock harness on eBay?
 

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Sounds like it has fuel injection, so the computer has to be wired just right for it to run. A lot of sensors have to all be happy, ...crank sensor, temperature and throttle, o2,...etc.

Look for the stock harness on eBay?
Yes, EFI is indeed a nightmare, and a very expensive and failure prone one, with a huge number of expensive parts that carbureted bikes not only don't need but run better without. Every single one of my six bikes is carbureted.
 

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I have 2009 vulcan classic..lost key tried wiring it wouldnt work also fuse box got ripped off ....how can I start my bike done alotcwiring I can get everything on but not fuel pump can directly but still no start ..I know li messed up but I cant not afforded a ignition I'm broke trying to get it running been stuck for 2 months now ....how can I get it to run till I can afford the right stuff please help any advice would be greatly appreciated thank yall for u time
Try a forum dedicated to the newer Vulcans. This one is dedicated to the 700/750 and you will get a better response from a forum more dedicated to your bike

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Yes, EFI is indeed a nightmare, and a very expensive and failure prone one, with a huge number of expensive parts that carbureted bikes not only don't need but run better without. Every single one of my six bikes is carbureted.
It's not a nightmare if you take the time to learn, I saw that writing on the wall almost 40 years ago and got busy.

EFI makes more power and has better fuel efficiency, I don't see how that's worse than a carb.
 

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It's not a nightmare if you take the time to learn, I saw that writing on the wall almost 40 years ago and got busy.

EFI makes more power and has better fuel efficiency, I don't see how that's worse than a carb.
This is coming from a man who removes a throttle cable in the name of safety yet says it's ok to ride around without bolting on your seat. Remember the source, Spockster.

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This is coming from a man who removes a throttle cable in the name of safety yet says it's ok to ride around without bolting on your seat. Remember the source, Spockster.

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I'm considering the earshave a safety upgrade, it keeps me from running 150.
 

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The extended backrest holds the seat in place just fine. A carburetor can be tuned to work a lot better than any EFI setup. A single cable throttle has less drag and one less cable to fail. I have found that a single front disc and the drum rear to be a perfect braking setup for the Vulcan 750. It has been tested without problems for over 100K miles. There are things I won't do. Tow a trailer with a motorcycle. Might work fine until you get into a sticky situation where you need to stop fast or take evasive action. Then you are screwed but good Using car tires on the back of a motorcycle has been proven safe over hundreds of millions of miles, but I still won't do it.

An EFI system has about 5 times as many parts as a carburetor setup, which consists of a carburetor and a petcock. And all those extra parts are computerized electronics which are very expensive, prone to failure, and extremely difficult to work on. And they serve no purpose. Carburetors have been proven over 120 years. A guy on another forum just had the fuel pump fail on his Yamaha Zuma 125 scooter. A new one costs $523. And that is on a tiny little run around town scooter. Add up the cost of the fuel pump, throttle body, ECU, 8 sensors, and several other small parts. It comes to over $2000 And for what? Why does something need to be that complicated and expensive and difficult to work on?? On my 1979 Vespa carbureted 2 stroke manual shift, manual clutch scooter, you can replace the entire engine/transmission for half that. A new Vespa carburetor costs $150. And it runs perfectly. The more complicated something is, the more there is to go wrong, and the more it is going to cost. But modern bikes (as well as cars) were never meant to be fixed. They are disposable. When one breaks down, recycle it and buy another new one. No thanks.
 

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When it breaks down, you break out the tools and fix it.

Stopping quick is what ABS does best.
In the name of safety, let's remove one front brake caliper. Yup. Sounds like a great idea. What could possibly go wrong...

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In all reality technology is going to progress regardless of whether you like it or not, you can embrace change or condemn it, but it’s gonna happen. You’re entitled to like “the way things were” but implying that the entire automotive industry is wrong by adopting new technology and a sole opinion is correct is laughable.
Another thing that is worth mentioning is most folks don’t really want to work on their vehicles, They want them to run and be dependable. I’m a technical guy by nature and I like to know how things work but I’d much rather prefer that my truck, car and bike just run and I don’t have to touch them. The avg driver/rider doesn’t care how “complex” their vehicle is to fix, in their minds that’s the mechanic’s problem if it even crosses their minds at all.
My only hope is no one really listens to the “anti-safety” suggestions and ends up having a “fooked up” day because of it.
 

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"In the name of safety, let's remove one front brake caliper. Yup. Sounds like a great idea. What could possibly go wrong" Well, absolutely nothing has gone wrong in over 100K miles. So I guess that blows that idea out of the water. Many much larger and heavier bikes than the Vulcan 750 have only one front disc.

I'm a "mechanic" with 36 years experience. However, I am NOT, a "computer technician" and have no desire to be. My whole life has been spent working on cars, trucks, and bikes, both for fun and as a way of making a living. I got to see first hand how much less reliable and harder and more expensive to fix vehicles became the more electronic technology they put on them.

Fortunately I will never have to ride or drive vehicles loaded with garbage technology. At my age there will be plenty of older ones available. And I can just keep fixing or rebuilding them if necessary, something you can't easily do with the newer junk. I feel bad about what future generations are stuck with though. I'm going to get to drive a 1923 Model T today. Been waiting almost a month for that.
 

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I have worked with computers and electronics for just about 25 yrs now, I’m hard pressed to find a place where technology has been applied and has made my life worse, now granted I’m not a fan of “self driving” cars or even electric vehicles but that’s mainly because I live in the city and there’s no place to plug it in so for now it’s just not practical. But back to my point, I think it’s a plus to have an onboard computer tell me something like “bank 2 running lean” vs me having no idea unless I pull plugs out of my truck. At the end of the day a vehicle is still mechanical, the computer just monitors, and in some cases makes adjustments like for a VVT solenoid or traction control or whatever. I’m pretty sure mechanics don’t have to be computer techs, they need to understand how the software works but if the computer itself or sensors are bad then yes they are just another part that needs to be replaced.

So my last point is I found this forum almost 3 years ago, I don’t know Mr Jerry personally, but I do know he just pops in every few months, gets a few folks riled up, and then slips away
 

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Jerry preaching his anti technology crap again?
Seriously it’s just annoying now.....

So I gave him a warning and banned him until September.
Too bad about those rants. He seems like a handy guy to have around. I'm glad to have gotten to read the few posts he contributed before he got all hot around the collar over this tech stuff. He's got a lot of helpful knowledge and experience to offer. (I'm currently following some of his advice on camchain tensioners in fact and am waiting for my order to arrive.) Fascinating motorcycle collection too.
 

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Jerry preaching his anti technology crap again?
Seriously it’s just annoying now.....

So I gave him a warning and banned him until September.
He can't help it, it's the way he's made. He was privately warned several times on another motorcycle forum for the same things. He'd clean up his act for awhile, but couldn't resist the compulsion to share his convictions about why safety features and "electronics" are bad. He was finally given an ultimatum; stop the anti-technology/safety posts or be banned. Anticipating what he might do, he was instructed not to complain about his warning on the open forum. Sure enough, he immediately posted a rant about how his free speech was being stifled, etc., etc., (which doesn't apply to privately owned forums) and was permanently banned. He came back within a few weeks under a new user name, was detected, and was banned again. Skip forward a year or so, moderators came and went and he returned under yet another username. Eventually, his actions raised the ire of a new generation of moderators, and one from his first ban returned after a long hiatus from that forum. That moderator, me, didn't say anything about his posts until the other moderators raised the issue. I gave them the history of Jerry's presence, and forced absence, on the forum. Since I was part of the team that initially banned him, I told the other moderators it was up to them as to how to handle him. He was, and remains, banned from that forum. If he comes back, he'll be banned as soon as he's detected.

Jerry, if you read this, be aware that I have blocked you on this forum, and won't see any of your posts if you choose to respond.
 

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I just don’t understand why he cannot grasp the concept that not everyone on a forum thinks for themselves when it comes to a subject that they know little about. Many folks (myself included) join a forum to learn and gain information. I’m sure some can’t discern between what’s good advice and what is down right dangerous like removing throttle cables and half your braking system.
It’s like telling someone “sure you can swim in the ocean with a chum bag around your neck, I’ve never been bit by a shark”. Its a shame because opinions aside, he seemed to be knowledgeable.
 
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