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ok guys this is the easiest way to bypass all safety switches look at this picture



on the 10 pin connector shown in the bottom left of the picture you will see the number 12

locate that wire on your bikes junction box and strip the insulation back enough to connect a jumper wire

attach the other end of the jumper wire to any form of ground you wish

you can ground to the frame or the motor or take it straight to the negative terminal on the battery as long as it is grounded

with correctly working safety switches in place they are meant to create a ground for the starter relay when in the correct position but by jumping pin number 12 on the junction box to ground you are allowing the starter relay a constant ground thus bypassing the safety switches all together




FOR THE CREATIVE MINDS here's something else to ponder you only need an active ground on that wire when starting the bike so after it is running you can disconnect it meaning if you wanted to add a push button valet switch in the jumper wire and hide it somewhere easy to reach but hard to see then you would be able to only start your bike when you press the hidden switch and the starter button at the same time
 

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DISCLAIMER

after this bypass mod is complete you will be able to engage the starter no matter what gear you are in and no matter what position the clutch lever is in

that being said take caution when starting your bike because it would now be possible to start the bike in first gear with the clutch engaged which could cause your bike to lunge forward and fall off the kick stand causing unwanted damage to your bike or even worse fall on you causing unwanted damage to you

so if you do this bypass mod do so at your own discretion and please do not blame me if you do exactly what i did and get drunk and try to show off how good your bike sounds and hit the starter button while it is in gear and knock your bike over and look like a dumbass for doing so
 

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what do you think about the bypass mod?
If you follow my posts, you know I have trouble 'recommending' anyone bypassing a safety feature. I don't have trouble with people deciding to do such. That is on them.

Your bypass appears to be the best for those wanting to bypass the safety switches.

I am somewhat old and owned my first motorcycle in 1965. I would estimate, I have ridden further on a m/c without safety switches.
 

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If you follow my posts, you know I have trouble 'recommending' anyone bypassing a safety feature. I don't have trouble with people deciding to do such. That is on them.

Your bypass appears to be the best for those wanting to bypass the safety switches.

I am somewhat old and owned my first motorcycle in 1965. I would estimate, I have ridden further on a m/c without safety switches.
exactly what i was saying its not for everyone but if you have the brain capacity to pay attention to your bike then you dont need safety switches any more than an avid seasoned hunter needs a safety on his gun
 

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The only thing I don't like about it... You can start the bike in gear by accident, and that can be no fun.
hence the disclamer lol

plus if you do the advanced procedure with the valet switch you would know that you need it in neutral because you wont be able to hold the clutch in while hitting the hidden switch :smiley_th
 

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There are some excellent points made here.

To be honest, all of the miles I put on bikes without safety switches, none were electric start.
 

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ok, another option to bypass switches (and associated relays in JB)

http://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41530&page=2

last post.
this is a second option that would work however when doing it this way you are bypassing the starter relay not the safety switches

i personally would like to keep the relay in play so if there is ever a fault in the starting system the relay will be able to stop power to the starter and not damage the engine
 

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Agreed, my method does bypass the relay in the JB. the solenoid is still in play. and remember that if either the ignition or the run/stop is off, the solenoid will not be able to get any power, regardless of what happens in the JB or other circuits.

if you have a solenoid stick shut, thats about the only way to keep the starter runnning when you dont want it, and that can happen no matter what method you use to bypass the switches.
 

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The post IMO is fine with the disclaimer and warning....personally, Ive never even owned a bike with "safety" stuff...my 85 is my newest....

Just wondering, since its a bit radical and may hurt/confuse noobs, if it should go into the Mods/Builds section....

For safety sake, for idiots, Im gonna move it there....hope ya dont mind Trey.....
 

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The post IMO is fine with the disclaimer and warning....personally, Ive never even owned a bike with "safety" stuff...my 85 is my newest....

Just wondering, since its a bit radical and may hurt/confuse noobs, if it should go into the Mods/Builds section....

For safety sake, for idiots, Im gonna move it there....hope ya dont mind Trey.....
hey your the boss :beerchug:
 

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well i gotta say a big thankyou for this. As for saftey worries my thoughts are basically if you cant take responsibility for yourself you shouldnt be on a bike. keep up the good work with the tips
 

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Once I finish bypassing the safety switch relay, the only thing I'll have left functional in the JB is the fan relay and the fuses. minus the Auxiliary fuse since I deleted those wires as well.

No sure yet how to bypass that relay and still leave the fan fully functional, or if it's even possible/worth it.
 

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Once I finish bypassing the safety switch relay, the only thing I'll have left functional in the JB is the fan relay and the fuses. minus the Auxiliary fuse since I deleted those wires as well.

No sure yet how to bypass that relay and still leave the fan fully functional, or if it's even possible/worth it.
Wire the Positive Side of the fan motor to the battery, and the negative side to the Fan Temp switch. Only problem with doing this is that you tae the chance of burning up the fan switch. Another and better way would be to get an automotive type relay and wire it up so that the fan switch triggers the relay to close, sending power from the battery to the fan motor.
 
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