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DIDNT HAVE THE MUNY FOR A NEW BATERY SO I FILLED THE OLD ONE. AND MADE ME SOME JUMPER CABLES FOR "JUST IN CASE" THAT WAS THANKSGIVEING DAY. I DIDNT PLUG IT IN LIKE I USUALLY DID. YESTER DAY I WENT TO WORK, NO PROBLEM LIKE NORMAL. BUT I HAD TO GIT IT JUMPED AGIN TO GIT HOME THIS IS THE FORTH TIME IN TWO WEEKS, AND IT DIED ON ME ON THE WAY HOME. PLENTY OF GAS. HAD TO GO JUMP IT TO GIT IT OFF THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.

I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO, I THOUGHT FILLING THE BATTERY WOULD MAKE IT LIKE NEW? I TESTED THE BATERY AND IM GITING 12V.

I HAVE 15,000 MILES ON THE BIKE, ORIGINAL BATTERY.

THIS IS THE FINAL STRAW, I WILL DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO TRUST MY BIKE AGIN. CUASE RIGHT NOW I DONT WANT TO RISK EVEN GITING GAS OUT SIDE OF WALKING DISTANCE FROM MY HOUSE.

DID I MENTION THIS IS THE FINAL STRAW BECAUSE TO DAY IT ALL HAPPEND IN THE POURING RAIN, DURING RUSH HOUR, AND IT WAS DARK OUT ALLREADY.

SORRY IF I SEEM TICKED BUT I HAVE DONE EVERY THING I CAN THINK OF TO DO IN MY GARAGE WITH VERY LITTLE TOOLS AND I DONT HAVE VERY MUCH MONY TO JUST REWIIRE THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.

ANY HELP IS MUCH APPRECIATED, OF COURSE
 

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First thing to do is relax, then get a new battery. I know they are pricey, but it will save you some frustration. If you don't have funds for an AGM bat just get a reg cell bat, it will get you by.
Hopefully It's not a charging issue. I'm guessing you've tested it to make sure it's charging. Hope this helps and Good luck.
 

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you probably need a new battery. Get the mf one. Also check the system for proper charging.
i thought "new battery" would be said, more afraid it would be said then thought.

How do i chech for proper charging. Is that when you check the batery terminals with the bike running? Cuase with my multi meter it looks around 13.5 or 14.
 

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15000 miles on the original battery and it's a 2005! I would say you got your money's worth. I think you don't have enough money to NOT buy a new battery. What's the alternative? Drive a car to work and pay $$ for gas? You can get a wet cell for under $50. If you can spare a bit more, get a mainenance free AGM battery. Definitely worth the extra $$ but then again, it's your call.
 

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the $ issue is realy only a problem becuse its xmas and i have two kids. but i dont have another vehical to git me by till after holidays.

but aparintly like rubyrick said i got my mony worth, i jsut thought they would last longer.

new battery it is!!

will pick one up after work tomorrow.

still would like to know if im checking the charging systim right

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i thought "new battery" would be said, more afraid it would be said then thought.

How do i chech for proper charging. Is that when you check the batery terminals with the bike running? Cuase with my multi meter it looks around 13.5 or 14.
Sounds like it's charging, time to go battery shopping. I agree the AGM MF bats are worth the extra money, but I also understand wat it's like not haveing the extra money to spend.
 

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This sounds very similar to the issue I was having with my 2003. I bought an MF battery and bike still died on me a few times. I would charge up the battery and it would run a bit and then die on me again. Battery kept loosing juice. Once I replaced the rectifier, the bike has been running strong since then. Here is the link to test the rectifier from the verses.... http://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1148 If it turns out the rectifier is bad, go ahead and relocate it and get it away from the goats belly where it can stay cool.
 

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i thought "new battery" would be said, more afraid it would be said then thought.

How do i chech for proper charging. Is that when you check the batery terminals with the bike running? Cuase with my multi meter it looks around 13.5 or 14.[/QUOTE]

This sounds very similar to the issue I was having with my 2003. I bought an MF battery and bike still died on me a few times. I would charge up the battery and it would run a bit and then die on me again. Battery kept loosing juice. Once I replaced the rectifier, the bike has been running strong since then. Here is the link to test the rectifier from the verses.... http://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1148 If it turns out the rectifier is bad, go ahead and relocate it and get it away from the goats belly where it can stay cool.
What is your engine speed (rpm) when you are getting a 13.5-14 volt reading? As engine speed increases from 3K to 5K RPMs, does the voltage increase too? 13.5 -14V @3K rpm is not bad, it should increase to 14.5 to 15V @5K rpm.

If it is not then you need to check the reg/rectifier and the stator.

Also two items about your opening post. It is considerered bad manners to type your whole message in capital letters. It is seen as the equivalent of screaming at your audience. I know how frustrated you must be, and feel like screaming, but it is just not the proper thing to do. `nuff said, no harm done, no foul.

Second is to do with refilling an old battery with new electrolyte. I was sure someone else would have jumped in here by now and warned against doing it. No one has, so I will. A new battery is filled with a specified amount of sulfuric acid and distilled water to make what is called electrolyte.

That is all the acid that should ever be put into that battery. A regular wet cell that needs to be checked for electrolye level periodically, must only be refilled with distilled or de-ionized water. As a result of the chemical reaction to make electricity, or recharging to reverse those reactions, the battery plates eventually become sulfated, or covered with sulfate compounds, because the recharging is not 100% effective in reversing the reactions.

You have discovered for yourself that adding more acid (or electrolyte), to a dead or sulfated battery will not revive it. It is just throwing good money after bad.

By all accounts spending a little more for a MF-AGM battery is most cost effective in the long run, because it may last 2 or 3 times as long as the regular wet cell battery. It will also not spill acid on your battery box and motorcycle frame.:D
 

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chavisimo, i'v heard about the rectifier relocating and never knew why, i figured if it screwed up on my bike then i would worry bout it. so that might be the issue now and i will check it out and the verses.
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olhosscanada, first about the all caps thing. sorry bout that. i am military and in a very bad habbit of all caps all the time no mater what. and in fact i have typed ever post on this web site in all caps because it looks weird to me if i dont, but they have never posted as i see them, but now brout to my atintion i will change that, i dont want to come off as a mad person. thank you. i cant do anything about the speling though, thats just me. lol!

and now that i know where i went rong on the battery fiilling thing i will never do that agin. i will pick up a new mf batery tomorow on my day off and i will check the reg/rectifier and relocat it.

thanks all
 

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i thought "new battery" would be said, more afraid it would be said then thought.

How do i chech for proper charging. Is that when you check the batery terminals with the bike running? Cuase with my multi meter it looks around 13.5 or 14.[/QUOTE]



What is your engine speed (rpm) when you are getting a 13.5-14 volt reading? As engine speed increases from 3K to 5K RPMs, does the voltage increase too? 13.5 -14V @3K rpm is not bad, it should increase to 14.5 to 15V @5K rpm.

If it is not then you need to check the reg/rectifier and the stator.

Also two items about your opening post. It is considerered bad manners to type your whole message in capital letters. It is seen as the equivalent of screaming at your audience. I know how frustrated you must be, and feel like screaming, but it is just not the proper thing to do. `nuff said, no harm done, no foul.
Second is to do with refilling an old battery with new electrolyte. I was sure someone else would have jumped in here by now and warned against doing it. No one has, so I will. A new battery is filled with a specified amount of sulfuric acid and distilled water to make what is called electrolyte.

That is all the acid that should ever be put into that battery. A regular wet cell that needs to be checked for electrolye level periodically, must only be refilled with distilled or de-ionized water. As a result of the chemical reaction to make electricity, or recharging to reverse those reactions, the battery plates eventually become sulfated, or covered with sulfate compounds, because the recharging is not 100% effective in reversing the reactions.

You have discovered for yourself that adding more acid (or electrolyte), to a dead or sulfated battery will not revive it. It is just throwing good money after bad.

By all accounts spending a little more for a MF-AGM battery is most cost effective in the long run, because it may last 2 or 3 times as long as the regular wet cell battery. It will also not spill acid on your battery box and motorcycle frame.:D
I tried to hallor back at him, but when I hit (submit reply) the comp fixed the lettering back to lower case letters.
 

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Since OlHoss brought it up..

A capital letter at the beginning of a sentence would make the posts a lot easier to read. At least for someone like me who does not speak english as his mother tongue. And this was meant for all you lazy posters who don't bother putting in proper sentences.:doh:
 

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Since OlHoss brought it up..

A capital letter at the beginning of a sentence would make the posts a lot easier to read. At least for someone like me who does not speak english as his mother tongue. And this was meant for all you lazy posters who don't bother putting in proper sentences.:doh:
Well said pappa. It is tough enough for us whose mother tongue is English, to unravel the run on sentences here sometimes. For you and others who speak it as a second or third language, it must be incomprehensible some times.

I was on another forum this week where I read on their opening page a request for posters to please try and write in complete sentences, use capital letters and some punctuation appropriately, and avoid using texting shorthand like b4 (before). It is also much easier to read a long post if you break it into paragraphs, with a space every 3 or 4 lines.

OK that is my rant for the day.:blah:
 

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I was on another forum this week where I read on their opening page a request for posters to please try and write in complete sentences, use capital letters and some punctuation appropriately, and avoid using texting shorthand like b4 (before). It is also much easier to read a long post if you break it into paragraphs, with a space every 3 or 4 lines.
Thank you. I been saying this for years and folks, as usual, just think I am being picky. ;)

There were a few posts on this forum that were basicly one paragraph....and about 30 lines long. I had to copy the text, break it up into sections in order to read it.


I can understand spelling mistakes, but I am surprised at how many folks that are US citizens seem to know nothing about sentence structure. Forums are not twitter pages, you can use as many words as you want to.

And it really does not hurt to read what you wrote to make sure it is right before you click on the "Submit Reply" button..........
 
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