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So my VN700 has some pretty worn tires on it and I've been researching replacement tires. I just can't get enough of this Darkside movement and have decided I must join it! I found this tire (Nexen SB802 165/80R15) at Walmart for $52 and have it on order:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nexen-11766NXC/19473481

I also plan on moving up to a 110/90-19 up front. What's the best price for a decent tire of that size? It'll probably be at least a week before Walmart gets that tire shipped, but I'll update this thread when I've got it and hopefully get it seated without too much trouble.

Anyone else running a Nexen 165/80R15?
 

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I don't think there's much of a "movement" here to go to the Darkside.

Good luck, but you won't catch me doing it.....
 

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That tire is going to fit on the stock rear rim?
And I'd say a decent tire you can normally find for $100-125
 

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So my VN700 has some pretty worn tires on it and I've been researching replacement tires. I just can't get enough of this Darkside movement and have decided I must join it! I found this tire (Nexen SB802 165/80R15) at Walmart for $52 and have it on order:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nexen-11766NXC/19473481

I also plan on moving up to a 110/90-19 up front. What's the best price for a decent tire of that size? It'll probably be at least a week before Walmart gets that tire shipped, but I'll update this thread when I've got it and hopefully get it seated without too much trouble.

Anyone else running a Nexen 165/80R15?

I'm thinking about it- let us know how it works out.
 

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There were a couple threads about this a while back, a member posted some great info on "The Dark Side"... here's the thread:

http://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16057

Member "baldy" gives some great info on what tires he tried on and how they handled.
 

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I think a car tire on the 750 is really not needed. The reason being the stock rear tire can go for a good 15,000 miles. As much riding as many put on the bike each year, this might be about 4 years before that is reached.

Given it a car tire or motorcycle tire, it should be replaced every five years. You might get 20,000 miles out of that car tire, but if you're a seasonal rider and only put on 3-4000 miles a year....you'll still need to replace it at five years anyway. So just don't see the advantage when you can get a motorcycle tire for about the same price as a decent car tire.

Now if you have a bike that eats rear tires up quickly (like my 1300) it might be a logical idea.........
 

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Thanks for the link, Ceal. And Knife, I hear you. I'm not all too concerned with getting 40,000 miles out of my rear tire. I just enjoy doing less than traditional things and everything I've read about the Darkside from those who have done it has been positive. Surprisingly, Walmart already has my tire in stock so I'll be picking it up soon and hopefully mounting it later today.
 

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i got my 110/90/19 shinko 712 off of motorcyclesuperstore.com for 48.99 plus 6.99 shipping and my rear tire is the shinko 722r got it from the same guys for 86.99 same shipping costs
 

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Wow. That was harder than I thought it would be. But, the tire is on, the bead is seated and everything's put back together. Can't test it yet since it's pouring outside, but I took some pictures of the two tires for comparison. The old tire was a 150/90-15.
 

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I would like to know how that tire works out for you. That is quite interesting. I have never seen a car tire mounted on a Vulcan before. Looks a lot different. I'm curious as to how well it corners if you lean into it very far.
 

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Look at the thread I posted before. Baldy gives some nice reviews!

If I recall correctly, everything works a lot better (in both straights and corners), but the very first time you get on it, it does feel a little weird. Nothing that a few miles won't fix though ;)
 

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Just rode it about 10 miles this morning and to be honest it didn't feel much different. I didn't ride agressively through any turns since it was a little wet and the tire is new, but it felt smooth all the way to over 100 MPH, indicated of course.
 

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I can imagine it's quite sticky with the wider contact patch on the road. Does look different, but that's what makes it unique.
 

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165/80R15
I'd have tried a 165/75 R15...or even a 70...slightly lower profile, as it seems yer new one is taller, not that there isnt room for it....one thing a taller profile will do though, is lower your RPMs at the same speeds, therefore, slightly better fuel milage....wondering too what the weight diff is...when we ran car tires on our Harleys, the car tires seemed a lot heavier, and therefore act as a flywheel...causing slower accelleration and longer stopping distances...but not noticably significant.
 

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I think I'll stick to motorcycle tires. Maybe a little more expensive, but I think they are safer, and on the Vulcan more mileage wouldn't be that big of a deal, you have to remove the rear wheel to do the splines anyway. And I kind of like having new tires once in a while. My oem tires lasted for almost 10 years. I had to pull the wheel to do the splines right after I bought it, then put it back and put 20000 miles on the bridgestone rear tire. I can kind of see where it might make sense on a big touring bike like a Harley Electraglide or Goldwing, but it seems likr too much for a 750.
 

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Does look different, but that's what makes it unique.
I love to be different. That was probably the main reason I did it. That and I'm really cheap.

I'd have tried a 165/75 R15...or even a 70...slightly lower profile, as it seems yer new one is taller
Doing the math for the stock tire and the car tire I got, the car tire should be 6mm shorter. My new tire is slightly taller than the old one, but that's comparing a brand new tire to a worn-out one. I think I got the perfect size.

I think I'll stick to motorcycle tires. Maybe a little more expensive, but I think they are safer
I'm certainly not trying to convince anyone to do this. Please do what you think best. I will say that I'm loving this car tire on the rear. It feels great! I figured there were probably several people who have thought about doing this, so I wanted to post my experience with it. And if anyone else decides they want to try it, be prepared to have fun seating that bead (it took me about 115 PSI)!
 

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but that's comparing a brand new tire to a worn-out one. I think I got the perfect size.
Thats true also...was just going by the pics...

be prepared to have fun seating that bead (it took me about 115 PSI)!
Try the old "rope and pipe" trick... ;)

And either it was Old Dog or Old Hoss Canada that went dark...they seem to like it....
 

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I love to be different. That was probably the main reason I did it. That and I'm really cheap.



Doing the math for the stock tire and the car tire I got, the car tire should be 6mm shorter. My new tire is slightly taller than the old one, but that's comparing a brand new tire to a worn-out one. I think I got the perfect size.



I'm certainly not trying to convince anyone to do this. Please do what you think best. I will say that I'm loving this car tire on the rear. It feels great! I figured there were probably several people who have thought about doing this, so I wanted to post my experience with it. And if anyone else decides they want to try it, be prepared to have fun seating that bead (it took me about 115 PSI)!
i did the old tractor tire trick when mine wouldnt seat on just spray on a little starting fluid and throw a match at it poof its seated
 

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I totally forgot about that starting fluid trick! I've wanted to try that. And Wolfie, what's the "rope and pipe" trick?
 

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The rope and pipe trick is to wrap a rope around the circumference of the tire and use a piece of pipe and twist the rope to tighten it to force the sides of the tire onto the bead, then you use air to finish seating it.
Works great on riding lawn mowers and older ATVs with the bigger tires.
Starting fluid works great, just have to be careful and not use too much. I had a guy seat a semi tire in Albuquerque a few years back. Laid it on the floor, shot about a half a can into the tire, and dropped a match to it. Picked the tire up off the floor about 6 inches, and scared the hell outta me.
Another thing you can do is pick up another rear wheel, and go buy a studded snow tire and mount it, and get a ski for the front end, and you will have a winter vehicle! That I would try. I had a ski kit for an old dirt bike I had, and you could go anywhere with it you could a sled. Only more fun.
 
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