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Another motorcyclist killed when a driver turned right in front of him.......

http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/deadly-motorcycle-crash-victor/Ffzhij9szECAZu692lp-ww.cspx

"Perinton, N.Y. - 44-year-old Norman Dillon of Macedon was on his motorcycle, heading westbound on Route 96, when police say a car turned in front of him to get into Woodcliff.

The driver of that car, 31-year-old Adam Fay of Henrietta is now charged with failure to yield the right of way.

Monroe County Sheriffs Deputies are investigating the crash which happened just after 7:30 this morning.

People who work in that area tell 13WHAM news it is a busy, often congested intersection. They say it becomes more dangerous because of traffic volume and speed.

In this case though it appears driver error, caused the fatal crash.

Sheriffs deputies continue to investigate. "

So you can kill someone and get "failure to yield right of way."
This is why my bike is lit up like a xmas tree.....
 

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The site where I bought my MOSFET r/r said this about the stator testing, "take a lamp with a 100w bulb, connect the cord to any 2 of the three stator leads, start the bike, raise the rpm's, and the bulb should light up if the stator is good." He says the ac voltage is not correct if the has no service drainage on it,
 

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The site where I bought my MOSFET r/r said this about the stator testing, "take a lamp with a 100w bulb, connect the cord to any 2 of the three stator leads, start the bike, raise the rpm's, and the bulb should light up if the stator is good." He says the ac voltage is not correct if the has no service drainage on it,
Chuck I think this post needs to be on a stator testing thread.
Not sure what it has to do with a mc fatality.:confused:
 

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Still not sure why you folks keep posting stuff like this.... I feel bad for the family of the guy that died , but what use is it?

Sorry, just me.


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The use of it is to hopefully make riders on this forum stop and think how dangerous it can be on the road and to get them to do everything possible not to become another statistic. This rider lived 20 miles outside of Rochester and was on his way to work ( in Rochester ). He didn't do anything wrong but he's dead. I'm glad the TV stations report these accidents because it gets cagers thinking about motorcycles. Posting about it here should get riders thinking about safety awareness and the dangers involved in riding bikes. JMO
 

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Posting about it here should get riders thinking about safety awareness and the dangers involved in riding bikes. JMO

So, the folks here don't know that already? Sorry, but if you need to be reminded how dangerous and vunerable you are riding a bike, perhaps you should not be riding one.
 

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^ I personally think people who post things like this are well entitled to ride a motorcycle if they wish. To some, I'm sure that sounds crazy. To other's, that might seem rational, normal, and even sane.

I'm sorry for the family of this rider, that's very unfortunate. I hope that perpetually problematic intersection gets the attention it so badly needs. Hopefully no one else gets hurt.
 

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So, the folks here don't know that already? Sorry, but if you need to be reminded how dangerous and vunerable you are riding a bike, perhaps you should not be riding one.
really ... ? Your comment surprises me KM.

I'm in the construction business, have been for 20 years. We still have meetings to discuss the inherent dangers of what we do because we understand the human frailty of complacency through familiarity. I'm glad we have those meetings; keeps me on my toes. I see this type thread as kinda’ the same thing.

That being said, it probably should have been in the motorcycle safety section of the site, but no big deal.
 

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So, the folks here don't know that already? Sorry, but if you need to be reminded how dangerous and vunerable you are riding a bike, perhaps you should not be riding one.
I think we should then turn this forum into nothing but mechanical problems relating to the Vulcan 750. According to you, no one needs to be reminded of any safety issue or possible consequences. Everyone on this forum must have a protective bubble around their bikes protecting them from any injury. Lets not have any more discussions about helmets, protective clothing, night glasses,,night lighting, safe tires, running red lights, etc because it would be an unnecessary reminder of our vulnerability. I fail to see where a post reminding riders of safety issues and dangers is a bad thing and warrants a " perhaps you should not be riding one" You also said you felt bad for the family. What about the rider? He will be buried in 3 days. I would hate to see that happen to anyone on this forum. :drool:
 

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really ... ? Your comment surprises me KM.

I'm in the construction business, have been for 20 years. We still have meetings to discuss the inherent dangers of what we do because we understand the human frailty of complacency through familiarity. I'm glad we have those meetings; keeps me on my toes. I see this type thread as kinda’ the same thing.

That being said, it probably should have been in the motorcycle safety section of the site, but no big deal.

Sorry, perhaps I can make this clearer. I don't have a problem with posting a report about a motorcycle fatality, as long as it is being used as an example of some kind to help others avoid the same fate.

Had the post said, this guy got killed...in the most common type of accident involving a car. What can we do to so this does not happen to us?
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Here are some strategies to keep yourself from ending up like this poor guy......


In a way , it just makes the unfortunate bikers death in vain, if there is nothing we can learn from it.

I am willing to bet had the rider done the "left- right- left weave" approaching the intersection, he might be alive today.

As far as the driver goes... Classic "I did not see him" case to me. He has to live with the fact he killed someone... So unless he was drunk, on drugs, or texting.... Not sure what other charges would legally be appropriate.

I'm just saying if you post about some poor soul who got killed riding his bike, at least use it to start a dialog that is benificial to the others here.

And for those that say a post like this helps to remind them to be carefull, what I hear is if the thread was not posted they wouldn't have thought about their safety when they got on their bike? That seems a bit scary to me.

Someone should not have to die for you to think about your own safety.... This is something you should have been doing every time you swing your leg over the seat.

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^ Why do we have to post according to your rules?
You don't. I was just explaining my opinion, as it seemed to have been missunderstood.

As always. You all are free to post whatever the hell you want, in any section of the forum about anything you feel like.

If I believe it is silly or in bad taste, I have the right to comment on it just like anyone else. I am NOT attempting to bend you to my will as others have suggested in the past, just point out alternatives that it would appear no one else has thought about.

As your odds of dying on your bike are in fact lower than dying of heart disease... I guess I should ask you all to watch what you eat and consider quitting smoking. Have not seen many posts touching on this deadly concern.... ;)

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There were several reasons for the post:

1. we all are here for a common interest; motorcycling. When a fellow rider goes down, it effects us all. (or at least it should, IMHO) The story should make you pause for a moment and feel for a brother.

2. Killing someone, accident or not, should get you more than a slap on the hand. Again, just my opinion.

3. This is the most common cause of motorcycle accidents, left turning car in a motorcycle's path. we all have heard this. Here is a real world example of what can happen... more than just words on a page or accident stats.

4. I believe lighting, as on my bike, is criticle to you and your bike being 'seen.' HID headlight, driving lights, and so on......

5. I also believe that all motorcycle accidents can be avoided by the rider.
 

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If the rider was going east....at 7:30 am, that means the sun was behind him and directly in front of the driver.

This can make spotting an oncoming bike, or car for that matter difficult.

Again we have few other facts here.... Was the bikes headlight on, did the bike emerge from behind another car?

You should also put yourself into this by thinking what if you were the person behind the wheel here.

I still feel bad about putting my cat down 5 years ago, how I would handle being responsible for killing a person is beyond my grasp.

And yes, I agree with # 5.
 

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really ... ? Your comment surprises me KM.

I'm in the construction business, have been for 20 years. We still have meetings to discuss the inherent dangers of what we do because we understand the human frailty of complacency through familiarity. I'm glad we have those meetings; keeps me on my toes. I see this type thread as kinda’ the same thing.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

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This was my 1st thought,

Everybody off to work lots of traffic and start / stop.
Guy on the bike gets impatient & decides to weave around traffic.
Guy in car checks both ways, All Clear and steps on the gas to merge/turn into traffic. Out of no where this biker appears. So late to stop.

And the People who work/live in that area said it's a busy, often congested intersection.


Again we have few other facts here.... Was the bikes headlight on, did the bike emerge from behind another car?

You should also put yourself into this by thinking what if you were the person behind the wheel here......

Another motorcyclist killed when a driver turned right in front of him.......


, when police say a car turned in front of him to get into Woodcliff.

Monroe County Sheriffs Deputies are investigating the crash which happened just after 7:30 this morning.

People who work in that area tell 13WHAM news it is a busy, often congested intersection. They say it becomes more dangerous because of traffic volume and speed.

In this case though it appears driver error, caused the fatal crash.

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I'm in the construction business, have been for 20 years. We still have meetings to discuss the inherent dangers of what we do because we understand the human frailty of complacency through familiarity. I'm glad we have those meetings; keeps me on my toes. I see this type thread as kinda’ the same thing.

That being said, it probably should have been in the motorcycle safety section of the site, but no big deal.
My point is here that you don't wait for someone to die before you have one of those meetings do you?
 

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Well, when we had an accident at work, there was an investigation into what caused it and how it could have been avoided. And then it was discussed at the next safety meeting.
 
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