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Rook 12-15-2009 11:15 AM

Legality
 
Does anyone have any idea if it would be legal to move my turn signals up on to the sissy bar? I've been thinking of relocating my rear flashers to get them out of the way of my saddlebags opening, and thought a strip of amber LEDs up either side of the sissy bar might look cool and be close to a cagers eye level too

Sloppyburpfest 12-15-2009 12:35 PM

Hey Rook, I'm not a lawyer but I do have an opinion for you,

Your best bet is to consult your local Department of Motor Vehicles or the equivalent agency in your state. In NY I believe that motorcycles (made after 1969) must be equipped with working front and rear turn signals, but I don't think there are any specifics in the code for how bright, and where they should be placed other than "the rear".

Some of the new Harleys come with two red colored turn signals in the rear and no dedicated stop lamp. Instead the rear turn signals light up in red when the brakes are applied. My personal feeling is that keeping yellow turn signals is a safer thing to do since no one will ever confuse the intention of a yellow turn signal where as a red one could be possibly be mistaken as a brake light. I believe in NY there is a rule that brake lights must be red, but turn signals could be either yellow or red.

You can always ask yourself… do you think a car would see this and do you think a cop would give you any sort of ticket for this?

-Sloppy

Rook 12-15-2009 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sloppyburpfest (Post 122732)
You can always ask yourself… do you think a car would see this and do you think a cop would give you any sort of ticket for this?

Good point. Except, myself is kind of a smarta$$ and tends toward rudeness, so I try not to consult him too much.....:rolleyes:

Chavisimo 12-15-2009 02:50 PM

Just as a personal preference, I think it would be a bad idea because the sissy bar does not have a lot of room and as a cager I would not be able to determine which direction you are signaling. I would just see a flashing light in the middle of the bike. As far as teh legality, I am not sure.

LibertyPilot 12-15-2009 03:30 PM

^ I don't know, I see lots of sport bikes out there that have there turn signals right inside their rear fenders. That's only about 4 maybe 5 inches of room to put both turn signals. They're stock too so they must have passed some kind of government scrutiny. I don't know that I would do it as you're losing viz but I can't see it being illegal.

Kinda like this but I've actually seen them even closer together...

dirtrack650 12-15-2009 04:32 PM

I like the relocate inline with the license plate or attached to the stop/tail light assembly.

On the bags is cool too...

Knifemaker 12-15-2009 05:12 PM

You can move them anywhere you want, just as long as they are visaable from the rear.

Most states, you do not even have to have turnsignals...but the catch is if you do they have to work.

If they are still on the stalk and bolted to the upper backrest bar, they should be just as noticable as they were before, perhaps more so really, as they will not be inline with the tail light and should be easier to pick out.

All euro spec Vulcan 750s came with the turn signals mounted right where you plan on moving them BTW.....

KM

Rook 12-15-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knifemaker (Post 122765)
You can move them anywhere you want, just as long as they are visaable from the rear.

Most states, you do not even have to have turnsignals...but the catch is if you do they have to work.

If they are still on the stalk and bolted to the upper backrest bar, they should be just as noticable as they were before, perhaps more so really, as they will not be inline with the tail light and should be easier to pick out.

All euro spec Vulcan 750s came with the turn signals mounted right where you plan on moving them BTW.....

KM

I had actually planned on using a strip of LEDs on either side but, I may have to seek out a pic of the euro spec model of which you speak.

VN750Rider/Jerry 12-15-2009 08:24 PM

I bought a 250 Rebel a few months ago to play with, one of the first things I did was to remove the stock turn signals. They are bigger than the ones on the Vulcan, and looked hideous on such a small bike. I had planned to replace them with those small LED ones, but found out they are not legal in my state (BTW, most sportbikes you see with those tiny turn signals have aftermarket non-DOT legal signals, and most of them have had the factory rear fender removed as well) AZ requires the signals to be DOT legal, and be a certain distance apart. No height requirement, as far as I know, but they must say DOT right on the lense. AZ does not require turn signals on motorcycles, but if they are there, they must be legal. So I decided to just go without them. I had already been riding my Yamaha XT225 dual sport bike around without turn signals for almost 3 years. I've noticed that car herders seem to pay more attention to arm signals than they do lights anyway. They probably don't know what they mean, but it catches their attention, so they watch out. I would not recommend this to an inexperienced rider, as you need both hands on the bars. But a more accomplished rider shouldn't really have any problems. BTW, I do still have the stock turn signals on my Vulcan, and plan on leaving them there. Jerry.

hyperbuzzin 12-15-2009 09:57 PM

According to the AMA site on state motorcycle laws, turnsignals are NOT required in Arkansas, so I wouldn't think moving and/or changing them to LED's would be illegal.
BUT..... their safety inspection says...."Random" - Subject to Law Enforcement Road Side Inspection.
So, it kinda sounds like if a LEO doesn't like something, they might decide to write ya up for it.


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