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03-28-2009 01:17 AM
Fire Ant I've noticed this as well. I can always tell when I've been doing a lot of highway riding when I figure out what my average MPG was on the last tank of fuel each time I fill up.

--FA
03-27-2009 11:22 AM
EasyRector
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Originally Posted by Ccspinner View Post
Once you get the RPM over 5k you will loose MPG fast...
This is TRUE! Now, this may not matter much if: 1) you're really in a hurry, and/or 2) gas prices stay @ $2/gallon. And, for both reasons, I do sometimes put the hammer down. But, all in all, I try to keep it on the slow side ~ to preserve both my "precious bodily fluids" and the planet's precious petroleum fluids!
03-27-2009 01:34 AM
Ccspinner I have done 500 mile days before on the 750 and the Nomad.
I will say the Nomad is better designed for this but the 750 did quite well.
I do agree if I did not have a set destination then 350 to 400 is not a bad day with stops to look around.
Once you get the RPM over 5k you will loose MPG fast, My worst tank with the bike loaded trying to make time and a Plex III was only about 80 miles. But that was at 80MPH or more.
Slow down to 55 and I could do 130 on a tank, put on the smaller sheld adn could do 150 easy.
03-27-2009 01:05 AM
svarog
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Hrrm. Weather aside (assuming I'm dressed appropriately), how was the distance? That's probably the Longest Day in terms of saddle time that I have on my itinerary. Wheeling is basically a suburb of Pittsburgh, but I won't actually be passing through the Steel City. I picked Wheeling and Cumberland because they're within 2-3 hours apart from Cleveland and DC, maybe a little more, and Wheeling is in WV so I get a cheapie pickup of that state from my lifetime goal of riding in all the Lower 48.
Heh. Out there was a bit of a trek, I took an exploratory backroute I'd never taken before (7 -> 15 -> 40 -> 30 -> get lost in Pittsburgh for a while -> 76 -> 480). If you have everything well mapped it's a doable but long day. If I remember right it was close to a 14 hour day for me, though a good chunk of that was because of the leisurely route to Pittsburgh. Since I was hitting Highway after that it was no big deal.

I did hit bad traffic because of an accident (twice), got lost in Pitt and had to make more than a few stops to thaw out.

Likewise, on the way home, it was probably a 7-8 hour trip overall (usually 6 in the car add in more frequent pit and gas stops, etc).

Long story short (too late) it's definitely a doable day, but count on it being a long one if you take the scenic route or a boring one if you're on the highway the whole time. And I've heard there are some great hidden gems roadwise heading that way through Ohio.
03-26-2009 10:07 PM
robardin
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I'm in DC, from Philly, lived in NYC and my fiance is from Cleveland. So I do most of those legs in a car or on bike multiple times a year.

DC -> Cleveland almost killed me, though that's because I was hitting Pittsburgh in the dark in October, so I wasn't expecting the temperature drop or high altitude and it smacked me around.
Hrrm. Weather aside (assuming I'm dressed appropriately), how was the distance? That's probably the Longest Day in terms of saddle time that I have on my itinerary. Wheeling is basically a suburb of Pittsburgh, but I won't actually be passing through the Steel City. I picked Wheeling and Cumberland because they're within 2-3 hours apart from Cleveland and DC, maybe a little more, and Wheeling is in WV so I get a cheapie pickup of that state from my lifetime goal of riding in all the Lower 48.
03-25-2009 02:51 PM
svarog
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Originally Posted by robardin View Post
NY - Boston, MA (passing thru New Haven & Providence)
Boston - Portland, ME - Concord, NH - ?, VT
VT - Montreal, PQ (see the city, have some poutine)
Montreal - Toronto, with 2 stopovers (Kingston, +??)
Toronto - Cleveland, passing thru Detroit and Toledo
Cleveland - DC, via Wheeling, WV and Cumberland, MD
DC - NYC, via Baltimore, Wilmington and Philadelphia
(Stopover to compare Pat's vs. Geno's Steaks!)
I'm in DC, from Philly, lived in NYC and my fiance is from Cleveland. So I do most of those legs in a car or on bike multiple times a year.

DC -> Cleveland almost killed me, though that's because I was hitting Pittsburgh in the dark in October, so I wasn't expecting the temperature drop or high altitude and it smacked me around. Still good roads to ride whatever route you take between the two, still remember that being a really long day.
Make sure if it is a long day that you rest up before you get too close to DC (pit stop, whatever), as the cagers here are the worst I've seen on the worst coast (haven't been to Boston yet, but heard stories about there). 270 and 495 are to be avoided if you're not at you best.

DC -> NYC is a bit easier as far as I'm concerned. Not a lot of scenic ways to get there, but the highway roads (295, 95, 40, whatever) are a little more sane, and if you wanted to take a 'leisurely' trip to Philly to extend the trip, going due north to Gettysburg (or York or Lancaster) and passing through Amish country for awesome grub and open hilly rides into Philly is definitely more fun (though not as speed/time efficient) as heading straight up 95 through Baltimore.
03-24-2009 06:39 PM
EasyRector
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BTW that tail bag is exactly the size I was looking for: a soft bag that would fit on the passenger seat without jamming into my back, and also be top-loading and weatherproof. Tour Master TB-17 here I come!
I really like this bag. I usually put it on the passenger seat: I hook two bungies to the back rung of the tail rack, and two bungies through the helmet locks. On long trips, before I got my Corbin seat with back rest, I would stuff this bag full and it would also provide comfortable lower-back support. (It still fits, albeit more snugly now, behind the back rest.) It's only weakness is that the rubber zipper pulls seem a bit flimsy, but the zippers themselves are stout. It comes with a rain cover. Do note that it is NOT a top-loader ~ although it's easy to access from the top.
03-24-2009 10:50 AM
LibertyPilot
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Originally Posted by robardin View Post
Heh. I've been to Philly 2 or 3 times in the past 5-6 years, have seen most of the tourist things (Liberty Bell, Vet Memorial) and even took the Ducks tour with my kids. I haven't done the Pat's/Geno's throwdown thing yet, though; the only Philly Cheesesteaks I've had in Philly itself so far has been from a stall in the Reading Terminal Market near the convention center, which I don't think is affiliated with either Pat's or Geno's (though they did have some kind of flyer giving some kind of linear descent from one of them). The Ducks tour did go by Pat's and Geno's but alas, we couldn't get off to order.

I have to say that I'm not crazy about the idea of Cheez Wiz. I'd rather have mushrooms and onions, provolone and hot sauce. But I suppose that'd be the equivalent of asking for a chili dog at Nathan's in Coney Island. When in Philly, do as the Phanatic would do, eh? (I hope my Mets-decaled bike won't get tipped over! )

ETA: I looked the place up, it is (or was) Rick's Steaks in Reading Market, which a news article turned up via Google says closed last October .
No worries, just a thought. I think your bike would be ok because the Phils won the series last year. If we were elimintated it would be a different story. If we were eliminated by the Mets I wouldn't even be caught riding it. I'm not like that but there's a reason our stadium has a court, a judge, and a jail in it.

I'm actually with you on the steaks too. I like fried onions, mushrooms, melted American cheese, and Texas Pete hot sauce but there's still something about Pat's that is SO good!!!

Good luck with your ride man. Post some pics when you take it if you can...
03-24-2009 10:25 AM
robardin
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Originally Posted by EasyRector View Post
Re: your proposed itinerary, Cleveland has a great baseball park, but the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is a must-see.
Of course!

BTW that tail bag is exactly the size I was looking for: a soft bag that would fit on the passenger seat without jamming into my back, and also be top-loading and weatherproof. Tour Master TB-17 here I come!
03-24-2009 10:00 AM
robardin
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Originally Posted by LibertyPilot View Post
If you're stopping by Philly again let me know. ... I gotta say that one thing I would've made you do is get a Pat's and a Geno's steak. Congrats on already doing that, you're halfway to being an honorary Philadelphian! Which did you prefer by the way? I'm a Pat's guy myself, wizz with.
Heh. I've been to Philly 2 or 3 times in the past 5-6 years, have seen most of the tourist things (Liberty Bell, Vet Memorial) and even took the Ducks tour with my kids. I haven't done the Pat's/Geno's throwdown thing yet, though; the only Philly Cheesesteaks I've had in Philly itself so far has been from a stall in the Reading Terminal Market near the convention center, which I don't think is affiliated with either Pat's or Geno's (though they did have some kind of flyer giving some kind of linear descent from one of them). The Ducks tour did go by Pat's and Geno's but alas, we couldn't get off to order.

I have to say that I'm not crazy about the idea of Cheez Wiz. I'd rather have mushrooms and onions, provolone and hot sauce. But I suppose that'd be the equivalent of asking for a chili dog at Nathan's in Coney Island. When in Philly, do as the Phanatic would do, eh? (I hope my Mets-decaled bike won't get tipped over! )

ETA: I looked the place up, it is (or was) Rick's Steaks in Reading Market, which a news article turned up via Google says closed last October .
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