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02-01-2009 11:33 PM
Knifemaker
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Originally Posted by Old Dog View Post
Evidently you did not see the...??? That means it was as much a question...
However I do believe if I were trying to pick a bike up (set it upright) I would rather the lower portion to be the heaviest and the upper part to be the lightest... ...
Yes OD I saw the ???? ...and did see it as a question, which I thought I was simply answering, sorry if it sounded differently.

But yes, if you are picking up a bike, or anything, it does help if more or the weight is towards the bottom then the top. Basicly you are using the entire bike as a lever, so weight closer to the fulcrum would make it easier to lift. (Think of a freind sitting on one end of your couch, and you picking up one end of the couch... it is easier to pick up the end away from them than the end they are sitting on)
The fact that most "crusiers" have taller and wider handlebars helps alot too.
You simple have a "longer lever" to work with than say trying to pick up a sport bike with narrow and low bars.

I think alot of what folks think of as "lower center of gravity" , or higher for that matter, has zero to do with the actual CG of the bike , but what it "feels" like to them. A cruiser with a low seat where one can not only have both feet on the ground, but have their knees bent some, may make a bike feel lighter. I know many that told me the Vulcan felt "top heavy"..and I heard the same thing about my FJR. So I think many would be surprised if they knew where the 'center of gravity' of a specific bike really was.

How "quickly" a bike falls into a corner is really a matter of steering geometry , some think it is top heavy or has a high center of gravity.


KM
02-01-2009 10:43 PM
lance328
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Originally Posted by niterider View Post
I get the (the bike is way bigger than you) quite often. It does not bother me at all. The bike feel very comfortable.
I have to agree with niterider, the scoot is bigger than most of us just or ride within your comfort level. A good friend of mine has a Road king, I let him rid my VN700 and he was utterly impressed with the performance and handeling of the scoot. He still brags about my scoot to his Harley buddies how it can keep up with and out perform his 1550cc Screaming Eagle Road King. He got is for Show I have mine for the GO!
02-01-2009 09:27 PM
niterider
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Originally Posted by RogerGA View Post
Knifemaker your the YODA

I came back to riding after more than 10 years. I was about 110Lbs riding a Royal Enfield - Trust me the rule was If your taking a dump jump off and save your legs which used to be the most common to get burnt . No one could lift her back - so weight is never the issue . The most advice i got was Choose a 250cc or 500 no more. Yeah even thought the Enfield was 350cc - it does not have the juice of a 250cc . So it was a power choice - then getting comfortable with what was throbbing between your legs. Eventually I moved to a 750cc. I went thru the same heartache - will I look like an Ant riding an Elephant! - But I felt very comfortable with the VN750 which I did not with the Virago. That said - In the end it was my comfort and confidence with the VN750 .
I get the (the bike is way bigger than you) quite often. It does not bother me at all. The bike feel very comfortable.
02-01-2009 07:37 PM
RogerGA
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Originally Posted by Knifemaker View Post
You really need to stop listening to those pinheads and listen to the folks here.


KM
Knifemaker your the YODA

I came back to riding after more than 10 years. I was about 110Lbs riding a Royal Enfield - Trust me the rule was If your taking a dump jump off and save your legs which used to be the most common to get burnt . No one could lift her back - so weight is never the issue . The most advice i got was Choose a 250cc or 500 no more. Yeah even thought the Enfield was 350cc - it does not have the juice of a 250cc . So it was a power choice - then getting comfortable with what was throbbing between your legs. Eventually I moved to a 750cc. I went thru the same heartache - will I look like an Ant riding an Elephant! - But I felt very comfortable with the VN750 which I did not with the Virago. That said - In the end it was my comfort and confidence with the VN750 .
02-01-2009 07:11 PM
Old Dog
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Originally Posted by Knifemaker View Post
First will say say right off that the "Center of Gravity" has little to do with handling on a bike. It helps with cars, as cars do not lean. Handling on a bike are all part of the chasis design, rake, trail, and suspension and tire design.
So sorry Old Dog, CG not really important. (race bikes are not cruisers you know)KM
Evidently you did not see the...??? That means it was as much a question...
However I do believe if I were trying to pick a bike up (set it upright) I would rather the lower portion to be the heaviest and the upper part to be the lightest... But thats just my opinion, yours may be different...
Have a good one...Old Dog...
02-01-2009 07:04 PM
Mastertech
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Originally Posted by Knifemaker View Post
They are what is called in my neck of the woods " ****ing Morons"....you may quote me on that. A 50cc scooter is an "around town" bike...not a 500 pound V twin.
You really need to stop listening to those pinheads and listen to the folks here.


KM

Thankyou knife, i agree, but that is why i am asking you, i'm sick of these knuckle heads at the coffee shop, they wont even ride unless it's 75 degree's out.

What tire for the front should i buy to help the speedo? Thanks knife!
02-01-2009 06:51 PM
Knifemaker
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Originally Posted by Mastertech View Post
........... They say a 750 in an intown commuter.
I tell them that they are crazy, This bike will outlast a 1500 Harley anyday. They look at me with this odd ball look on their face, and then grin at eachother like i'm some ****ing lunatic, You need a bigger bike for these long commutes, 1500 OR SO,They say! Good god man, the germans almost conquered the world on 600 cc BMW'S
So are they lying or am i naive?

They are what is called in my neck of the woods " ****ing Morons"....you may quote me on that. A 50cc scooter is an "around town" bike...not a 500 pound V twin.
You really need to stop listening to those pinheads and listen to the folks here.


KM
02-01-2009 06:41 PM
Mastertech Thankyou gentleman, thats very good.
I am not disalussioned with my bike, but my coffee shop crowd who are all motorcyclist say that i will burn up the engine riding it 100 miles per day, and out there on straight roads, They say a 750 in an intown commuter.
I tell them that they are crazy, This bike will outlast a 1500 Harley anyday. They look at me with this odd ball look on their face, and then grin at eachother like i'm some ****ing lunatic, You need a bigger bike for these long commutes, 1500 OR SO,They say! Good god man, the germans almost conquered the world on 600 cc BMW'S
So are they lying or am i naive?
02-01-2009 03:46 PM
Knifemaker First will say say right off that the "Center of Gravity" has little to do with handling on a bike. It helps with cars, as cars do not lean. Handling on a bike are all part of the chasis design, rake, trail, and suspension and tire design.
So sorry Old Dog, CG not really important. (race bikes are not cruisers you know)

Now, as for bike size. Size does not matter.(your wife told you that remember?) I have a bad back an can't likely pick up a 400cc bike , let alone anything bigger. (Yes there is a tecnique you can use to pick up a 899 pound Gold Wing, but I don't think that is what they were thinking about when talking about "picking up the bike")

It , as mentioned has more to do with what you feel comfortable with, and CONFIDENT on. My FJR weighs in at around 620 lbs, I have zero problems with it and feel quite comfortable with it. I do not think I would however feel comfortable with it if it was my first bike...so I thnk overall motorcycle experiance makes one "more comfortable" with larger bikes.

Think about it...most suggest as a "first bike" to choose a 250 , not a 1000cc bike. With time you not only get more proficiant riding, but also tend not to get as intimidated with a larger mount. Not to mention the need for speed or more power as you get used to the whole two wheeled concept.

Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, and hopefully their own set of limits when it comes to a motorcycle.
I really hate repeating this, but "riding your own ride" ALSO means ride What you want .....and don't care what anyone else thinks if it make you happy.


I have seen 5 foot tall folks on Goldwings and 6 foot plus folks riding Rebels. If you really care that much what you look like while riding you might as well buy a Harley and dress the part. (But yeah, I'll still laugh at you if you have Wal-Mart bags taped to your feet)


KM
02-01-2009 11:25 AM
Old Dog Lower center of gravity helps about getting a bike up as well as the handleing dosen't it....????
A lot of bikes are a bit top heavier than others which hurts the handleing and the pick up factor I think...
Have a good one...Old Dog...
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