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03-04-2012 09:20 AM
Chuck A. It varies from state to state. Also, cities can enforce their own laws. We have a band on texting while driving in one nearby city but they haven't banned the cell usage,,,yet. I have been hit from the rear in my pickup truck 3 times while at traffic lights in the last 7 years by a-holes on the phone.
03-04-2012 06:38 AM
Swagman
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Originally Posted by VN750Rider/Jerry View Post
There IS a big difference in talking to a person who is right next to you while driving or riding, and talking to someone on a cell phone. There are "statistics" to prove it. And while statistics are certainly not 100% right, in this case they are so overwhelming that they could be mostly wrong and still show a major difference. Using a cell phone while driving/riding is actually worse than riding/driving drunk.

They go and put all these safety devices on modern cars, they crack down on drunk driving big time, they pass seat belt laws, they put up photo radar and red light cameras, then they cancel it all out by allowing people to talk on cell phones while driving. According to our local police department, almost half the pictures from red light cameras show a driver using a handheld cell phone. But then again, maybe thats not quite what it sounds like, as it has been my observation that MORE than half of all drivers are using handheld cell phones.
ABS is not needed by a skilled rider, it's designed for the unskilled rider. As a BMW ad called it, FOOLproof. That about sums it up.
Is it not against the law over there to drive while using a cell phone unless it is hands free it is in this country, £80 fine and 3 points on your licence get 12 points and lose your licence.
03-04-2012 03:52 AM
VN750Rider/Jerry There IS a big difference in talking to a person who is right next to you while driving or riding, and talking to someone on a cell phone. There are "statistics" to prove it. And while statistics are certainly not 100% right, in this case they are so overwhelming that they could be mostly wrong and still show a major difference. Using a cell phone while driving/riding is actually worse than riding/driving drunk.

They go and put all these safety devices on modern cars, they crack down on drunk driving big time, they pass seat belt laws, they put up photo radar and red light cameras, then they cancel it all out by allowing people to talk on cell phones while driving. According to our local police department, almost half the pictures from red light cameras show a driver using a handheld cell phone. But then again, maybe thats not quite what it sounds like, as it has been my observation that MORE than half of all drivers are using handheld cell phones.

ABS is not needed by a skilled rider, it's designed for the unskilled rider. As a BMW ad called it, FOOLproof. That about sums it up.
03-02-2012 07:00 PM
Knifemaker Although I don't think I'll go with a BT system, looking forward to your review on this.

I should mention that the Cardo unit I had was not linked directly to my phone. My phone was "bluetoothed" to my Zumo GPS, which in turn was paired with my Cardo headset.

The advantage of this was if a call came in, the GPS screen would show me who was calling, and gave me a choice, via it's touch screen, if I wanted to "answer" or "ignore". It also could display my entire phonebook, and if I was looking for , let's say the nearest motel on the GPSs database, it displayed the option to "call".... Which was very handy.

I think if I just had the unit pared to my phone, I'd want a handle bar mounted holder for my phone. I've seen a few that look good, although they offer no protection if it rained. The Ram "aquabox" might be a good option if being waterproof is needed.
03-02-2012 12:11 AM
MaDeInSin Got the uclear today.. Pretty simple install.. No issues at all..Maybe took me 15 minutes... It paired with my Iphone instantly.. I was listening to my music and talking on it to friends and family with no problems at all.. They had no idea I was on any headset at all.... Although that is all well and good tomorrow morning I will be able to use it while driving.. and that will be the real test.

Will update you guys hopefully tomorrow evening. Ill have some pics of the unit and install as well if it turns out to work well.

Night all
03-01-2012 11:20 AM
Knifemaker Sorry, but bstew's points are stupid. Your passenger CAN alert you to something ... But they can also distract your attention at the wrong time. For every good thing bs can come up with, I can find a bad thing about talking to your passenger.

Having a passenger behind you is a potential safety risk on it's own. So, sorry, there is no real difference between talking to a passenger or some one on the phone using the same equipment. Try and remember you are supposed to be an intelligent being, and just tell whoever you are talking to to shutup if you need them to.

Some folks can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Some of these folks are driving and talking when they really should'nt. But let's STOP comparing cars to motorcycles. Your average bike rider is likely 20 times more aware of his surroundings than a car driver and about a 100 times more aware of his vunerability. If find talking on the phone distracting, don't do it. I know several folks that said they can't even listen to music as they find it distracting.

I don't. I have the ability to tune out what I'm listening to and focus if I need to. I also have enough sense that if I get a phone call on my bike at a bad moment to just not answer it.

The point here is to use your head. If you actually think a passenger can warn you of some trouble ahead that you have not already picked up on yourself you need to retire from riding before you get hurt.

If you can't focus on riding your bike listening to music or talking to someone via a com system....then don't. But don't tell me it's not safe...say it's not safe For You.....
02-29-2012 11:42 PM
VN750Rider/Jerry
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Tell me Jerry, exactly what is the difference between talking to someone through a head set and a microphone that's on their phone miles away or talking to someone on that same headset and mic that's sitting behind you?



KM
I don't know exactly, but what bstew7890 said probably has a lot to do with it. What is the difference between 2 people sitting in the front seat of a car talking to each other while one is driving, which is and has been done forever without problems, and a single person in a car talking on a cell phone? The single occupant talking on a cell phone is several times more likely to cause an accident than a driver talking to someone in the seat next to them, and that includes hands free cell phones, so it is not just having one hand occupied. I almost always carry a cell phone, both in a car and on a bike. But it is always turned off, at least the ringer is. I check it once in a while when I am parked and it is safe to do so.
02-29-2012 04:37 PM
Gemguy Hey Jay, CONGRATULATIONS!

All that fancy electronics, I prefer 2 cups and a string. All the better not to hear her with.
Men get 3000 words a day and women get 7000. They have to use every last one of them. lol
02-29-2012 09:13 AM
bstew7890 A person behind you can tell when you're negotiating heavy traffic and need silence to concentrate on that, while a person at home will yak right through it as though you're really listening. The person behind you can also be a second set of eyes and can alert you to road or traffic hazard you might miss. (admittedly, that could become irritating). I have to say, my wife and I have had some of our best conversations on car trips.
02-28-2012 10:21 PM
Knifemaker
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If you get a communications device, I highly recommend you get one that ONLY allows you to talk to each other. Cell phone using drivers are a riders worst enemy, to me the idea of a rider using such a device while riding is just plain wrong (not to mention dangerous).
Tell me Jerry, exactly what is the difference between talking to someone through a head set and a microphone that's on their phone miles away or talking to someone on that same headset and mic that's sitting behind you?



KM
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