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08-13-2010 09:38 PM
peter I always assume responsibility for the situation when on two wheels. I drive defensively, assuming everyone can't see me or is out to get me. Head and eyes up, always looking for potential situations, hopefully in enough time to avoid them. Never fixate on any one object.

The sad reality is that an approaching bike presents a small profile and is often easy to not see, especially if the predominant color is black. As I approach intersections I pay close attention to anyone who could violate my right of way. Watching their front wheels is a good way to tell if they're gonna move.

I always try to identify an escape route too.
08-13-2010 09:13 PM
OlHossCanada Interesting link Old Dog. I just saved it so I can pass it on to another local forum.
I knew we all had a blind spot in our eyes, but never knew how to find it before.
08-13-2010 07:53 PM
Old Dog And I will mention again the blind spot...
http://www.pilotfriend.com/aeromed/medical/fovea.htm
We all have it, thats why we should look twice...
Have a good one...Old dog...
08-13-2010 07:25 PM
Ceal You're completely right "theauhawk"... now imagine how it is for me, living in Mexico... roads suck, traffic sucks, cops suck, no one pays for their mistakes if they have a few dollars on hand... gotta be super alert and careful...

Also, thanks for the link Old Dog!
08-13-2010 06:52 PM
theauhawk Jeffh, there are several things you can do as a rider to reduce your chances of being a victim of the proverbial left-turning cager. You may not totally eliminate this possibility, but you can stack the odds much more in your favor.

Sadly, the "dark side" of motorcycling includes the reality that we live in a society here in the US that generally still does not respect motorcycles. Most new drivers are still not taught to watch for bikes, and...in addition....fines and penalties for injuring or killing a rider remain ridiculously below what they really should be.

As a result of all the above, your safety and well being while on a bike is ultimately your own responsibility. You must be proactive with this problem by adopting riding tactics/apparel and/or accessories to attract more attention from drivers.

A number of threads on this forum have already discussed countermeasures for dealing with inattentive and irresponsible cagers. Do searches inside the "motorcycle safey" forum here, for more ideas...if you're interested.
08-13-2010 06:39 PM
Old Dog
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Originally Posted by Ceal View Post
When I started riding, my friend gave me one piece of advice... "From now on, you ALWAYS have to remember that when you ride you are completely invisible to other people"... it kinda works, since if you think you are invisible you're always alert... and it's actually too damn true, cause people really do act as if you were invisible.
Here are a few more......
http://www.msgroup.org/articles.aspx
Have a good one...Old Dog...
08-13-2010 06:03 PM
Ceal When I started riding, my friend gave me one piece of advice... "From now on, you ALWAYS have to remember that when you ride you are completely invisible to other people"... it kinda works, since if you think you are invisible you're always alert... and it's actually too damn true, cause people really do act as if you were invisible.
08-13-2010 05:55 PM
jimkonst It is easy to get distracted by the age of the other driver, but in reality, we are at risk by everybody out there. You will never see an old guy yammering on a cell phone or tuning his radio. They are looking straight ahead and trying to drive right, because they know they are not as good as they were. The things old folks do to to kill bikers are usually predictable.
I have taken to weaving in my lane as I approach intersections, if there is anybody there who could get me. I don't do it all the time, but I am being consciencious about it.
So far I feel it helps alert those who are looking. They wonder WTF is that stupid biker doing?, and that gets their brain working. That loud horn folks here are talking about could probably help, on occasion.
Face it folks, it is up to us to stay alive.
08-13-2010 04:31 PM
Old Dog
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Here's the thing. At what age do we start retesting? 65? 70? 75? We know Old Dog is 70 and still rides, and I'll know he's still as sharp at the day is long. But we've all seen, read about, or know someone that should have had their tag pulled long ago but still get behind the wheel. So how do we call this one? It won't happen without an act of the state legislature and governor but the "Grey Panthers" are a big voting block and most pol's are scared of them.
Still young enough to grease my seat though...lol... Coming back from a otherwise good 90 mi ride today, ridin from Lynchburg Tn. on Hwy 50 toward Tims Ford dam, and nearing a right hand curve for me & a left hander for the kid in a cage he had lost on the outer shoulder from going a bit too fast as we both probably were, he's a bit sideways and I could just see dirt flying and the tires catching and him coming sideways at me, I was ready to try and jump as high as I could when he got it back on the pavement without the over correcting problem I figured on, he did good, I'll have to give him credit, and I'll also credit the wife for washing my shorts...lol...

Ron--I have a lot of miles on me, more in 4 wheel vehicles than cycles, and I'm still in pretty fair health which means a lot...
I know I push a bit hard at times, but what is ridin all about if you can't make the hair on the back of your neck raise a bit now and again...lol...
Have a good one...Old Dog...
08-07-2010 08:28 PM
Ron_G Here's the thing. At what age do we start retesting? 65? 70? 75? We know Old Dog is 70 and still rides, and I'll know he's still as sharp at the day is long. But we've all seen, read about, or know someone that should have had their tag pulled long ago but still get behind the wheel. So how do we call this one? It won't happen without an act of the state legislature and governor but the "Grey Panthers" are a big voting block and most pol's are scared of them.
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