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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 02-10-2009, 09:19 PM Thread Starter
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I just dident see him

How many times have i heard that story! Is there something going on with people when they drive a car and pull out into a motorcycle and crash him at highway speeds? I have drove cars all my life and Rode bikes for quite some time. There has never been an instance when i did not see a motorcycle or pedal cyclist, so whats going on there then???
I'm confused about the excuse that, The bike wasent 'big enough or loud enough'
Well excuse me mr 'Cell phone', but W.T.F.

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When we realized my 87 year old father was running stop signs and red lights, we got his license pulled. Fortunately, he didn't hurt anyone before this happened. Very young and very old drivers are not as aware of their surroundings as folks in between these extremes. A 17 year old rider was killed not long ago when a woman just a little older pulled out in front of him. She didn't see him. Don't know how fast he was going. Not sure if she was driving while distracted or not, but cell phone came to mind when I heard about it.

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I have been driving from the age of 14 or 15. And I have to admit that I have pulled out in the way of a car or two. Never saw them. Why I never saw them, I just don't know. Never gotten hit and I have never hit anyone. So I understand how a bike can be hard to see.

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When we realized my 87 year old father was running stop signs and red lights, we got his license pulled. Fortunately, he didn't hurt anyone before this happened. Very young and very old drivers are not as aware of their surroundings as folks in between these extremes. A 17 year old rider was killed not long ago when a woman just a little older pulled out in front of him. She didn't see him. Don't know how fast he was going. Not sure if she was driving while distracted or not, but cell phone came to mind when I heard about it.
How do these people have driving liscences in these conditions? Are they not revoked? With respect flite!
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I have been driving from the age of 14 or 15. And I have to admit that I have pulled out in the way of a car or two. Never saw them. Why I never saw them, I just don't know. Never gotten hit and I have never hit anyone. So I understand how a bike can be hard to see.
Thats a good point niterider, come to think of it, with all the gear on in the wintertime, it is a bit hard to look left and right, i too had to jump on the throttle a time or two. Normally i see them but i have just commited to take off, so it's Oh no!! Vroooom!
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think of it this way... people get complacent with their surroundings.... thats when bad things happen...
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This is how I see it for the average driver.....
When people who don't ride, or closely know someone who does ride, are driving in their car, they have their "Ring of Protection" around them.... their steel caged shield which will stop them from being hurt by objects smaller than they are.
So, they have little worry or concern about these smaller objects (which it just so happens motorcycles fall into this category).
In having little concern about these smaller objects, when there is one in their path, they see it, but don't recognise it as being a threat, so their mind just kind of dismisses it as something to not watch out for.
In doing this, they end up saying...... "I never even saw the motorcycle."


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Chappy, if you are asking if licenses are revoked as someone reaches an advanced age, the answer is no. Florida (where my father lives) used to have a requirement that all drivers above a certain age (70, I think) would have to take the driving test every 4-5 years when their license had to be renewed. Didn't take long for the many retirees in Florida to get that changed! (Ice cream!!) Now the interval is around 16 years. Do the math: pass at 70 and you're good to go until 86! Pass at 86, and you don't need the test until 102! Folks are very protective of what they regard as their freedom to drive. Actually, it's a privledge, not a right, but that is lost on most folks.

If you are asking about the bike accident, both people involved were licensed. The young woman could have been charged with negligent vehicular homicide, but wound up paying a fine and was good to go; no jail time, still has her license as far as I know. I read in the paper fairly regularly about people getting arrested for 4th, 5th, and even 7th DWI. yes, their license has been pulled but they drive anyway. Put those slobs in jail before they kill someone!

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Seems it's covered. I've nothing to add.

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How do these people have driving liscences in these conditions? Are they not revoked? With respect flite!
Here in Alberta as you get to an advanced age the licence is renewed for shorter periods, down to even 1 or 2 years. Typically they only have to pass a vision test, some times a medical, but usually not a driving test.

My brothers and I had to take our mother`s car away when she was about 74 and had 2 accidents in one day. Scraped paint on another car in a parking lot first, and knocked the passenger door mirror off her car while coming over to my place, but didn`t know what she hit or where it happened.

Whether driving, riding or walking, when I cross an intersection, I make eye contact with approaching drivers, before moving out in front of them. I`m surprised at how many people say they have never thought of looking inside the car to see the driver, when this topic comes up in conversation.

So ride like you are invisible, and everybody is out to get you!!

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