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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-01-2015, 11:47 AM
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What they all said^

I always stay to the far far right in blind turns (left or right ones) as many times have met oncoming traffic crossing the yellow.
Thtanner is correct...riding at 100% on the street isn't very safe...especially on curves you can't see what's on the other side of.

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You survived and everything will be fixable including your thumb. That is the important stuff. Glad you got away with what you did do. Just don't get too overly defensive when you get back into riding. That will cause more problems. I still believe there are only two types of riders, those that crashed and those that are waiting to crash. You now got that out of the way and can ride a little more careful but still looses enough to enjoy the thrill of riding in the wind. If you haven't crashed yet then you are not putting enough miles on your bike.

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Glad to hear you and the scoot are not banged up any worse dh.

So what did you learn from this incident?

You have to expect the unexpected when riding on public roads.
You are not going to try to tell me that you have never crossed a center line going around a curve while driving are you?

If you could not see all the way around the curve because of trees, you either need to slow down or change your "line" around that curve, so you can see farther into it before starting to turn in. David L. Hough refers to it as a "delayed apex", staying farther to the outside of the curve before starting your turn in. If you cannot safely stop in the distance you can see going around a curve, or topping a hill (sight distance), you are going too fast. When your sight distance starts to close up on you, get on your brakes--BOTH FRONT AND REAR, NOW!!

The difference between a crash and a clean get-a-way in most instances is about two seconds more reaction time according to some experts in the insurance industry.

I suggest that all riders, noobs as well as long time riders can all learn something from Hough's books on Proficient Motorcycling available in the link following.

I would like to make a suggestion to all members that when you report a crash or near miss, that you also ponder what you could have done differently to prevent the incident, and report your ideas for becoming a safer rider.

There was a middle aged couple killed on a motorcycle 5 miles from my home about 3 years ago, in what I consider to have been an easily preventable crash. They had been riding for several hours in a strong crosswind from Edmonton to Lethbridge, a distance of 320 miles or so. It would be reasonable to assume the driver was fatigued in both body and mind and not as responsive as he had been earlier in the ride home. They were only about 5 miles from home, a distance where many of us start to let our guard down because we know the area and start to think about what we need to do when we do get home.

This rider was on a two lane highway with a short divider fence but no median in between. He was in the left side tire track, and leaned over significantly to the left into the wind. Another rider alleges that he was also exceeding the speed limit by some unknown amount. An oncoming SUV started to make a left turn across the bike's path before seeing it and stopping. The bike and riders struck the drivers side front corner and were thrown some distance into the ditch.

The bike riders had the right of way. They were also the ones who died.

The SUV driver was in the wrong. (He is also a rider that I knew slightly from bike night. He was also traumatized by the hurt he had caused, and did not ride again for a long time.)

I contend that the rider should have recognized the danger potential of the left turning SUV facing him. If he had slowed down 10 mph pre-emptively and moved over 4-5 feet to the right hand tire track, I believe he would not have hit the SUV, and would still be alive today.

The horizontal movement of the bikes headlight those 4-5 feet may have been just enough to have caught the SUV drivers attention in time to stop him from rolling into the bikes path too. (google SMIDSY---Sorry Mate, I Didn't See You.)
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Happy you're not in the hospital although it may be wise to get checked out. Please ride safe.

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Sorry to hear it happened.

Glad you're ok!!

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Bet that was scary. Glad you are ok. Sorry the cater didn't stop....or any cater for that matter.

Be careful. Always drive defensively. My ride to work is 4 lane all the way. I always assume no one sees me. And stay as far from vehicles when overtaking them. I just know that some idiot is gonna pull in front of me. It's happened before, it'll happen again.

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Glad to know that you are ok! It could have been a lot worse. Wish you a speedy recovery and hope you get back on the roads soon. The only thing that makes me sad is the attitude of the passers by! How can they even do that!
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That sucks, but its apart of riding bro, just get it fixed and get back on the road, its all about confidence.
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I've had that same senario play out about 3 times so far in the year and a half i've been riding. It's never a good situation to be in. I've been lucky that none of them have been completely in the lane as i've had 2 close shaves with helmet to mirror contact trying to keep the bike on the pavement. Ya make sure you leave enough on the table to be able to account for the unknown. I probably push harder than i should but there is still a healthy reserve for me to at least mitigate the damage.

But glad you are okish!

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I've been taking too many chances lately because I've been getting road rage from people driving slow in the left lane. I can't seem to settle that throttle down.
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