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post #1 of 162 (permalink) Old 06-19-2012, 11:50 PM Thread Starter
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Question Top speed through the turns...

What do we think the top end speed of our bikes are through turns of all degrees? In other words, how much can they take? I'm no daredevil, but I'm curious how much you folks push your bike.

Take, for instance, something like this: http://www.her-motorcycle.com/images/curves2.jpg

I was on something like that today and I took it around 50 mph when the thought occurred to me about how fast I could have taken it. I mean, there's a maximum amount one can lean a bike or a maximum force before the tires slip out and you low side. But then I think about motorcycle racing and they take some very fast turns.

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Our bikes don't do so well in twisties because the foot pegs drag. Long sweeping curves must be what you mean and I am looking for any upcoming comments to focus on that. I'd kinda like to know what people have been getting away with myself!

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You know this is a cruiser right? The limit is equal to your riding skills...

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im limited by them darn pegs grinding on the turns lol

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You might have well asked "how hard do I squeeze the brake lever" lol

First, if your looking at your speedometer while going through a turn your doing it wrong already.

Every road and every turn are diffrent. You can hang off to the inside to counter the peg dragging problem but in general, you should only go as fast as you are comfortable with.

You can find your limits by taking the bike out onna closed track, but pushing it to it's limits on public roads is stupid and dangerous.

But to answer your question...55 mph. You should take all turns at 55 mph.

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shark88: Yeah, I know. I'm not trying to turn it into a sports bike. If I wanted one, would have bought one. I want a cruiser, but I also want to understand its limitations.

DACataldo/centurynick: Clearly you're leaning the bike more than I do because I don't think I'm anywhere near the pegs. Thanks, that provides some guidance.

Knifemaker: No, other drivers have already taught me how hard I'll need to brake. (Morons!) Fortunately, I have not skidded yet.

The 55 mph was a guesstimate - I didn't look down. I just know I was around 65 before the turn and slowed down before it. I do still look down and "think down" too much. For example, until the other day, I was still checking the RPMs before shifting. I've started using the sounds. And I do other things that need to become automatic but are not yet. Soon though.

I know. I remember the advice: "Don't override my skills." But you can't get better if you don't keep pushing yourself. So, I reach a bit at a time.

"stupid and dangerous" is a bit rough. I'm not talking about doing wheelies here. I'm not an aggressive driver, but one has to flow with traffic. If I'm going too slow and I'm slowing down traffic for no reason other than I don't know the limits of my bike, that too is dangerous. Ignorance can be as bad as reckless. Basically, I'm pushing the limits of my fears and skills, not the bike's limits. I think if you saw me ride, you'd realize I'm nowhere near the limits of the bike. I'm less than two months in and I'm still learning. Would you rather I not ask more experienced riders their thoughts on cornering? Would you prefer I just go test it myself? I'd love to have a closed track to play on, but that opportunity doesn't exist for everyone. So I go on fairly empty roads at light traffic times and I stay away from other cars.

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Our bikes don't do so well in twisties because the foot pegs drag. Long sweeping curves must be what you mean and I am looking for any upcoming comments to focus on that. I'd kinda like to know what people have been getting away with myself!
Sorry...couldn't disagree more. One of the things I like about this bike is it's nimbleness in the twisties...can easily out-maneuver my HD neighbor. Granted, it's not a sport bike but, IMHO, it handles twisties beautifully.
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Sorry...couldn't disagree more. One of the things I like about this bike is it's nimbleness in the twisties...can easily out-maneuver my HD neighbor. Granted, it's not a sport bike but, IMHO, it handles twisties beautifully.
I agree Doc. I think it handles twisties great for a cruiser.
I would say that if I felt my tires start slipping on clean surface before I was draggin' pegs, I need to consider a new set of tires. I would be curious to know if anyone has had the tires break away without first leaning in past the pegs to make hard contact with the exhaust or frame. Any bike will skid at that point.

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i never felt mine slide and i do hit the pegs a lot . im not saying it wasnt sliding at all but she felt pretty planted powering through the corners .the little acorns have flat spots on them

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"stupid and dangerous" is a bit rough. I'm not talking about doing wheelies here. I'm not an aggressive driver, but one has to flow with traffic. If I'm going too slow and I'm slowing down traffic for no reason other than I don't know the limits of my bike, that too is dangerous. Ignorance can be as bad as reckless. Basically, I'm pushing the limits of my fears and skills, not the bike's limits. I think if you saw me ride, you'd realize I'm nowhere near the limits of the bike. I'm less than two months in and I'm still learning. Would you rather I not ask more experienced riders their thoughts on cornering? Would you prefer I just go test it myself? I'd love to have a closed track to play on, but that opportunity doesn't exist for everyone.

Sorry, should have been more specific...pushing The Bike to it's limits on public roads is stupid and dangerous. Pushing yourself is fine. Your right, the bike is able to go further than you can, unless your Valentino Rossi. You only improve by raising YOUR own limits. Just take it slow and don't rush yourself.

Unless you have a fat tired sports car on your asss, you should be able to get through turns as fast, or faster than a car. From what you wrote... That seems to be your first goal.

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