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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 04-02-2010, 04:30 AM Thread Starter
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What do y'all think????

I was almost run off the road by what turned out to be a co-worker (chewed his butt out out later) but was almost run off the raod by him not looking over his shoulder before a lane change... do y'all think getting rid of the goat's belly and making the pipes louder would help (a little)???
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No - won't help a bit. Are you looking for an excuse to make the pipes louder?
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A louder horn may help (a lot) and be an easier upgrade.

While I am certainly do not support louder pipes, I concede that louder pipes "may" have helped a little in your situation. But a horn is more effective and doesn't anger 90% of the public. A loud horn is more attention getting than a loud exhaust drone that is always present.

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People with poor driving habits are going to be a problem regardless of how the bike sounds. I agree that a good set of horns gets their attention faster than loud pipes.

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...do y'all think getting rid of the goat's belly and making the pipes louder would help (a little)???
No. "Loud pipes saves lives" is a motorcycle myth.

Awareness on your part may be the only true solution; constant calculation of escape route, control space directly ahead of bike, keep out of blind spots, be visible, etc., etc.


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People with poor driving habits are going to be a problem regardless
I could not agree more.

As it is a coworker and thus known to you, you can send her this link on the office email. It may work or it may not but it costs nothing to do so is worth a try.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/think_media/24...med_riders.mp4

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I could not agree more.

As it is a coworker and thus known to you, you can send her this link on the office email. It may work or it may not but it costs nothing to do so is worth a try.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/think_media/24...med_riders.mp4
Why did you say her? He said it was a him. Women will never get rid of the that bad rep (women are bad drivers.) lol

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Why did you say her?
Force of habit. In these parts it is common to refer to anyone with a lack of driving skills as "driving like a woman."


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To restate the painfully obvious--the "down" side of riding a motorcycle in this country is that most drivers aren't looking for motorcycles, because they don't ride themselves and have never been taught to look for motorcycles or scooters.

It may have been David Hough in his Proficient Motorcycling books who taught us that part of riding a motorcycle is playing a mental game of "what if" and thus anticipating what a nearby driver might do next.

You should be constantly asking yourself "what might he/she do next?" (for vehicles that are around you and especially in front of you) and planning accordingly--either by slowing down, giving the vehicle in question more space, moving over away from them in your lane, hanging back, etc as the situation requires.

Obviously, there is a practical limit to all this, but old bikers get to be old bikers (in part) by being 2 steps ahead of nearby hazards before the looming "trap" can close on them.

This is one reason why riding a motorcycle is a higher calling (so to speak) because of the above--it demands more attention and concentration than driving a car or truck. To stay alive, riding a motorcycle is a thinking man's/woman's activity.

But hey, don't take my word for it. To see all this for yourself, click on the following link, and then click "collision traps":

http://www.msf-usa.org/riderperception/

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truth is people with loud pipes like loud pipes and some try to justify it by saying loud pipes save lives. because truth is you could land a jumbo jet next to some of these people and between talking texting playing with their laptops reading books newspapers and other activities they would be completely oblivious.


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