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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-18-2009, 09:07 AM Thread Starter
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not another full face thread

Ok ok ok i came to a giant conclusion on full face helmets and most of u are gonna call me crazy!!! i used to bee all about the full face... However i went for a trek on my roomates 1000 cc crotchrocket on some nice twisties yesterday omg what fun ii had for the first time in years i went to a full face and all the benifits were here no wind in the face ect... however it took my relitive notion of speed and through it out the window... i couldnt feel the wind in my face... i was cruisin along and i wouldnt say recklessly i was enjoying the ride... i look down and holy shat 160mph i new i was clippin but i figured i would bee around 100 i was wrong... the bike felt great smooth and solid at that speed and never felt "unsafe" but by speed alone unsafe is not a word that can be used... I should never feel comfortable at this speed

I also came to the conclusion that no matter how bad i may want something for the twisties i need to just saddle up in something my careless acts cant follow... i know the protection form the full face is there but if i was wearing my half shell there is no way i would have been clippin at that speed... this is just food for thought and am curious on the replies...



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I never have that problem wearing my full face. But of course I usually ride with the shield cracked open a little bit to let some more air in so I hear more of the wind and engine noise. Also with the shield open or fully closed, I've learned to listen to the sound of the engine at speeds so I have an idea of what it should sound like at 55MPH in 5th or 65-90MPH, I also look at my speedo every few minutes when I look at my mirrors just to make sure. My usual routine is Left mirror-Speedo-Fuel-Tach-Right mirror about every 2-3 minutes. I've been trying to teach myself to shift by sound but still always check my RPM's. So I guess because I'm so use to paying attention to my gauges, I have only ever found myself only going 5MPH faster than what I'm trying to go.


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I also noticed this - as I got a full facer about a week ago - did the same thing looking at the speedo and going way faster than I thought - I was also less fearfull at the speed than if I was with a turtle shell helm. Not fearless cuz of the full face - was just a feeling inside - cant really explain in text heh.
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Never mind feeling safer at high speed........

My wife and I went down at 20 mph in May wearing half helmets. She broke her eyebrow and cheekbone and only her goggles saved her from losing her eyesight in one eye. If you think you ever will go down (plan on it if you ride long enough) then definitely full face is a good idea.

I really prefer the half helmet - I think it gives me better situational awareness in the city - but I think it will be FF from now on.
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tough luck on the accident sorry to hear that...
like many i and my passenger are more then lucky to be alive....
A motorcycle can turn an accident into an assault/homicide in a split second how much are u willing to risk????

A passenger has no control over throttle and brake, When a bike goes down the passenger tends to have a lot less reaction time there is a lot of input and output in the seconds befor impact...
i request my passengers to be in full gear full face esp boots and gloves .
I couldnt handle hurtin anyone...
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Never mind feeling safer at high speed........

My wife and I went down at 20 mph in May wearing half helmets. She broke her eyebrow and cheekbone and only her goggles saved her from losing her eyesight in one eye. If you think you ever will go down (plan on it if you ride long enough) then definitely full face is a good idea.

I really prefer the half helmet - I think it gives me better situational awareness in the city - but I think it will be FF from now on.



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The only downside I ever had with the full-face was a hayfever sneezing attack at 60 ....

Had to pull over and let the chin bar drip for 3 minutes .....

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Have only worn a FF, so don't have anything less to compare it to. The engine sound pretty much tells me about how fast I'm going. I check the gauges frequently, but don't recall ever going a lot faster than planned.

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This is a new idea on the pro`s and con`s of wearing a FF helmet. I know from reading that a high percentage of strikes to the head in an accident are to the lower face, which is not covered by my present "turtle shell" 1/2 helmet. However all the FF helmets that I have tried on are claustrophobic to me and seem unwearable with eyeglasses. I suppose that I need to expand my search to more manufacturers, and a higher price range than I have to this time.

BTW seebeeare, IMHO, I think much of the reason you found yourself traveling so fast, was because the helmet was only one of two new variables on this ride. Certainly it cut down on the wind in your face buffeting, and also the engine noise. But if you have been riding only your vn750 for some time, getting on a "1000 cc crotch rocket" will make it very easy to exceed your normal cruising speed with all that power still on tap, at the point where the vn is giving her all.

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or hittin a bump and swallowin a full mouth of chew spit ..oh shat i need to puke
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When it is chilly at all or possibly wet, or if I am doing alot of miles in a day I prefer the full face. I feel less worn out at the end of a long day.

That said, I really prefer the 1/2 helmet. When I am just out for an enjoyable ride in warm weather I can't stand being "cooped up" in the big helmet. It is a risk I am aware of and accept.

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