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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-04-2013, 06:05 PM Thread Starter
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I'm sure other threads have cover the subject but, I was just wonting to say I finaly got me a toggle to manually turn on the cooling fan. I wired it as a parrell in line setup. The automatic kick on still works like stock but I can manually flip the switch and have it on for riding around town to keep her cooler in the summertime.

Another reason I went ahead and did this is it creates manual bypass incase the temp switch goes out in the future. My moto is prevention.

All I had to do was run a hot wire from the battery to my toggle switch which I mounter on the left side plastick cover just above the reflector. Then I ran my wire from the switch to the blue wire on the plug in for the fan. I used a crimp style connector with the bypass on one side and both blue wires twisted together in the outher.

If anyone know of a reason I should unhook it like fead back issues please let me know. As for now I'm happy with it.

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If you need the fan to come on and it isn't doing it by the normal setup in place on the bike already then in my opinion there is something defective and should be found and corrected. Having a backup switch just in case there is a problem in the future could have its merits but if you need to use it every time you ride downtown I would consider that only covering up the true problem. Over all it is your bike and your decision and if it is what you like go for it. You asked if anyone thought your setup would be a problem and my only concern is if you are just covering a growing problem that is causing your system to run too hot. Good luck.

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Kinda agree here^. If the fan is going on by itself when it needs to I don't really see the point.

Might as well wide up a spare R/R in case that fails or wiring up a entire junction box to switch to if yours fails. Likely be a good idea to install an extra battery too.. LOL ....redundant systems make sence if you're going to the moon, but seem overkill for a trip to Chuck-A-Burger.

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Kinda agree here^. If the fan is going on by itself when it needs to I don't really see the point.

Might as well wide up a spare R/R in case that fails or wiring up a entire junction box to switch to if yours fails. Likely be a good idea to install an extra battery too.. LOL ....redundant systems make sence if you're going to the moon, but seem overkill for a trip to Chuck-A-Burger.
I agreed with you on each point until you had to mention Chuck-A-Burger. That is an important mission and you wouldn't want anything to go wrong on the way there. lol & /s

Redundant systems have their place but this may not be one of them in our personal opinions and experience. He is welcome to go ahead anyway. I do wish him luck.

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Your temp gauge is your fail safe if the fan ever failed. I think you just wasted your time and hacked up your system for nothing. If you want it to run cooler get a lower temp thermostat or mod your thermostat. If it has been hotter then it use to be, then you have a problem with your cooling system that you need to resolve.
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You could get some sort of feedback issue when you turn the fan off. I know on some cars wired that way, the fan produces a current which backfeeds into the system, then crazy things start happening to the other systems in the car. It should be wired through a relay, and fused.

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I agree that food missions are critical. I include beer as "food".

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I actual used the switch this morning waiting in the drive threw at Dairy Queen. Very thing on the bike works fine as far as the cooling system and fan switch. I just like the option of manually turning on the fan befor she gets warm enuf to "need" cooling off. I figure the cooler she stays the better she is. Never has run hot on me though.

As to redundancy, I tend to over engineer everything I do. If one bolt holds her together four and she will never come loose. Lol

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I agree that food missions are critical. I include beer as "food".
One of the four major food groups right?
I think it goes:
Beer
Meat
Potatoes
Ice Cream
My wife might put the ice cream at the top - but I think you can replace it with a nice single malt on occasion.
On the subject of having two different types of alcohol in your food groups......I refer you back to the title of this thread.


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My wife would also add chocolate.

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