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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 02-11-2007, 09:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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Potential engine damage? Need an opinion

It snowed here last week, and I was, I admit, unprepared for it, as the bike was left outside uncovered. If I woulda known, I certainly would have brought it inside. Now, some of my shops mechanics took to snow plowing the lot where it was parked and using a snow blower. As I was working on the bike, the intake filters/covers were off. When I brought it in the next day, I drained the oil and there was a significant amount of water that also came out of the bike. When I removed the starter, more water came out.

My question is, would the engine be ruined?

I do have video and will be bringing this to the proper people tomorrow for rectification, but need to know if it is a certainly that the engine is beyond rational repair.

Yes, I know who this person is. grrrr
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 02-11-2007, 09:42 PM
 
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sorry to hear of your problem. that guy in the red coat must really have a bug up his a$$ about you or he is chromosomeal impaired. i can't see how the water got into the engine if the carbs were still on but what is a "significant amount of water". if it smelled of coolant then i would be thinking bad head gasket but if it pure h20 either condensation or sabatoge.


hope you get it straightened out J

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based on the video, I'm gonna go with sabotage.

I don't know what the deal is with this guy, I've never had a problem with him before...

I've been advised by two lawyers to take this to small claims court for damages, that, or kneecap the guy. I, unfortunately, may just take him to court to get the money for a new engine and installation if the company I work for does not take action.

I can only see this as malicious damage. We work on a pier, and right behind (3-4') is the Chesapeake Bay, where all the rest of the snow went.
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Seems to me that guy in red has something against bikes.

Depending on how long the water may have been in the engine would be a better determination of engine damage rather than the amount. And whether ya tried to turn it over at all with the water in it.

A couple oil changes (with the cheapest oil you can find) before you try getting the bike running would probably get things back in order.
And once it's running, even another oil change before too many miles are put on would be a good idea.

I'm not sure if Seafoam would help with removing water, but I do remember reading somewhere here or at Y! about adding it to the old oil when it's changed to help clean things out.

Also, it wouldn't hurt to be sure there's no water left in the air inlets and duct work.

Hope things work out for the better for you. What the guy did with the snowblowing is inexcusable and pretty stupid !!!
I don't think much water would've got into the bike if it wasn't for his actions.


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Man what a FREAKING MORON:I think after you get all settled with getting your bike taking care of I think that guy deserves a Blanket party.(This means to cover him with a blanket and BEATING THE CRAP out of him)I feel for ya man...................
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sorry to hear of your problem. that guy in the red coat must really have a bug up his a$$ about you or he is chromosomeal impaired. i can't see how the water got into the engine if the carbs were still on but what is a "significant amount of water". if it smelled of coolant then i would be thinking bad head gasket but if it pure h20 either condensation or sabatoge.


hope you get it straightened out J
I can't see how you'd get water actually into the engine, either. Possible some blew in the ducts through the air filters; and no doubt the snow blew in around the engine block and is working its way southward (e.g., melting and then coming out when you pulled the starter). I'd probably blast the heck out of it with WD-40 or some other water displacement fluid, and then see what you've got on your hands.

Definitely a moronic snow blower dude, though, no question.

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He said he was working on the bike and had the intakes and other stuff off the bike when it was hit with the snow blowing incident.

I'd think that like was said above, if you didn't crank the bike you're ok. Just drain everything and go through flushing it with fresh cheap oil a few times. You can run seafoam in the oil to help flush. But as long as it hasn't sat for a year with water in it, I think you're ok.

Hope everything works out with the moron. Idiot!

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Blanket party, that sounds like an old Marine Corps term. Hey, seafoam by the sea. Wow.
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One other thing I'd do is remove the spark plugs when first turning her over so that if any water is in the cylinders, it won't blow the plugs out. It will also help it to start if there isn't water mixed with the gas in the cylinder once you put the plugs back in. Once she's all back together the blanket party sounds like a great idea!!! That or let the air out of all 4 of his tires one night!!

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