I can't find the web site right now but we went and got (2) plastic bottles,
drilled holes in the caps, put in the plumbing barb's, hung them up with 3/4 plastic tube, filled them half with fluid and attached the clear plastic hose to the bleeders.. This is a very smooth and cool trick and once you open the bleeder valves you can pumb the master cylinder and watch those air bubbles flow out of the caliper and on up the line. You can also squeeze the bottle and basically watch fluid flow the other way.. You get the point.. No Air in the lines.. Now here is the problem we are having still....
With no air in the lines.. (Trust me.. There was no air in there).. What I decided to do to was take off the calipers and put a wrench between the new Brake pads on both sides... That's because the pistons will "Push out" to grip the pads..and basically adjust to where the caliper is loaded with fluid.
So basically now the rubber hoses, banjo bolts are alighed.. and you can watch the pistons.. push out.. IN fact, without the wrenches between, you can almost pop out the pistons by pumping the brakes.. All looking good there but .... But....
We did feel once.. The Master Cylinder "Go Hard" and when Andrew went to close the bleeder.. (He did know know how to pump bleed and close) he let air back in.. We bleed it out again.. But could not for the dang life
of us after hours get the master cylinder to go hard like that again.. We know it's capable but can't get them all airless, closed and hard brake..
I went back and reviewed the the Clymers.. and on the step being talked about.. "Benchmark Bleed with thumb" is where I think we are having problems. You see.. You can stick your thumb over the hold just out of the
master cylinder and pull back a bit, pump and it will go hard as it squirts fluid out etc... But if you take your thumb off to replace the banjo bolt... it's like good luck trying to get it to go hard again with the banjo and line back on... Just can't seem to get them all in sync... This reverse bleeding with the bottles is very easy and cool... Makes for air tight lines and calipers very fast and easy.. but this master cylinder getting hard like my brakes on the Intruder.. It's not happening... Can't figure it out..???
We are going to likely spend another 6 hours this next Monday/tue and try, try again.. Andrew got his Class M this Saturday after about a year of Permit only.. So.. Getting these brakes nailed is last step to road worthy...
I surley will be reading all these comments again and belive you me.. They are getting us there and very helpful indeed.. More suggestions are welcome!