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Thumbs up Ride On evaluation by Daniel Meyers - author of Life is a Road series

I just ran across this evaluation of Ride On tire sealant by a rider who has frequently put 10K miles on his bike in a month. We have had some controversy expressed here on the board, about the wisdom of using any tire sealants . I think the opinion of a rider with experience like this is valuable to me. The pictures are also quite informative. I hope you find the link helpful too.

http://lifeisaroad.com/forum/index.p...sg2738#msg2738

Daniels 4 week long, 10,000 miles trip to Alaska in 2004:
http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2004/...2004index.html

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I certainly can't claim to put 10,000 miles on a bike in a month, though I've come close a few times on long trips, that were few and far between. Trips like that is where the best designed part of the Vulcan 750, the seat, really shines.

But back to Ride On. I use it and recommend it in tubeless tires. It would be practically worthless in tube type tires, because motorcycle tubes are paper thin, and tend to explode when punctured, ripping a big hole in them. If by chance that doesn't happen, whatever punctured them will wiggle around and cut them up by the time you get stopped. My best advice about tube type tires is to avoid them at all costs, unless you have a centerstand, and are willing to remove the wheel, then remove the tire, put in a new tube, put the tire back on the wheel, and the wheel back on the bike. All beside the road. Yes I've done it many times. With a centerstand. Without one, all you can do is just stand there and look at it and hope help comes along.

I have Metzler ME880s on my Vulcan, that are about half worn out. I have Ride On in both of them. I also have 2 plugs in the rear one, and unless one of them becomes irreparably damaged, I intend to use them till they are worn out. I see no danger in doing this. The tire carcass is very strong ans well reinforced. Even if a plug came out, the Ride On would seal it, and even if the Ride On failed to seal completely, it would lose air so slowly that you would have plenty of time to notice the problem and get pulled over, where you could simply install another plug, air it up, and be on your way.


I feel the same way about replacing a nearly new (and expensive) tire, just because it has a small hole in it. Unless it has serious damage, it is still completely safe. Go ahead and wear it out. I feel the same way about this that I do about wearing too much gear. Both are just a bit over the top. Both take things to extremes, well beyond reason. The only bike related issues I go that far on is riding skills and maintaining my bikes. Riding skills, unlike gear, is something that nobody has enough of. Keep practicing your entire riding life. Aim for perfection, even though it is unattainable. Riding skills will keep you from crashing, gear won't. Keeping your bike properly maintained not only makes it a lot safer, but just as important, it makes it last a lot longer.

Yeah, I got a bit carried away, but IMO, ATGATT and replacing a brand new tire because it has a tiny hole in it is also getting carried away. I think motorcycle safety would benefit from the use of a little more common sense. Jerry.

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I got a bit carried away Jerry.
You reckon?

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"I think motorcycle safety would benefit from the use of a little more common sense" Jerry.

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"I think motorcycle safety would benefit from the use of a little more common sense" Jerry.
I agree completely


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What kind of plugs do you have in the rear tire Jerry?
The ordinary string or strip type?

Or the Stop and Go mushroom head style?
http://www.stopngo.com/motorcycle.asp

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I use a Patch-plug to repair my tires. It is the best of both worlds patch and plug all in one it looks like a regular patch with a 2 inch long metal spike attached. the spike is hollow and has the plug inside. to use you take a carbide cutting bit and ream the luncture out to 1/4 inch the buff the inside of the tire like you normally would for a patch. apply rubber cement and allow to dry. insert the metal spike into the puncture and pull through with pliers the spike will come off leaving the plug in the puncture and the patch pulled tightly into the inside of the tire. use the roller wheel to press the patch into the rubber cement remove the plastic from the back of the patch and cover with overbuff sealant then trim the excess plug off even with the tread. I know this is a little detailed but I also know there are some who have never patched or push plugged a tire.


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I am using the strip type like come with the Stop and Go kit Model # 1066. You remove whatever punctured the tire, stick a rasp through the puncture and work it back and forth a couple of times, then thread one of the plugs through the applicator halfway, coat it good with rubber cement, push it all the way through the hole in the tire, then pull it out until the insertion tool is completely out of the tire, and cut the plug off fairly close to the tire with a razor blade.

I have used these plugs in motorcycle tires, quad tires, car tires, lawn mower tires, tractor tires, etc. and never had one fail. Jerry.

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I use a Patch-plug to repair my tires. It is the best of both worlds patch and plug all in one it looks like a regular patch with a 2 inch long metal spike attached. the spike is hollow and has the plug inside. to use you take a carbide cutting bit and ream the luncture out to 1/4 inch the buff the inside of the tire like you normally would for a patch. apply rubber cement and allow to dry. insert the metal spike into the puncture and pull through with pliers the spike will come off leaving the plug in the puncture and the patch pulled tightly into the inside of the tire. use the roller wheel to press the patch into the rubber cement remove the plastic from the back of the patch and cover with overbuff sealant then trim the excess plug off even with the tread. I know this is a little detailed but I also know there are some who have never patched or push plugged a tire.
I'm one and I appreciate the detail.

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I used a mushroom plug from stop & go when I got a screw hole in my rear tire when my baby was only 1000 miles or so new. Worked great. Unfortunately for me I got talked into replacing the tire for perceived safety reasons. Next time, ride-on and the stop & go plug and keep the tire while it's still good. Hopefully I won't have to actually get a punctured tire, though!

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