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Grooved Roads

We have some area twisty roads that are grooved in the direction of travel (I believe to reduce skidding sideways). The tires 'move' from groove to groove creating an uncomfortable "feel" of the road (especially the rear). They are very secure on any other road surface. Anybody else have the same experience??
Tires are virtually new (5000 mi) and well maintained.
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Yeah, I have some grooved roads in my normal flight pattern as well. You just kinda have to let the bike do what it's going to do. Trying to fight the bike on grooved road is probably the first step toward a ride to the emergency room whilst thy buddies console thy wife in a way not acceptable to thee. Some tires probably ride the grooves better than others, but no grooved road is going to feel the same to you as a (relatively) smooth one.

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Yeah, I have some grooved roads in my normal flight pattern as well. You just kinda have to let the bike do what it's going to do.

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Agreed....still an uneasy feelin'
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We have some area twisty roads that are grooved in the direction of travel (I believe to reduce skidding sideways). The tires 'move' from groove to groove creating an uncomfortable "feel" of the road (especially the rear). They are very secure on any other road surface. Anybody else have the same experience??
Tires are virtually new (5000 mi) and well maintained.
Yes, with the stock Bridgestones the tracking was very noticeable. Also, here in Portland we also have a few bridges with large metal grated sections. The 'squirrelly' feeling on the metal grating is far worse than the grooved pavement. One bridge in particular I would avoid altogether because the entire span was metal grating. However, I recently switched to Metzeler ME880 tires and tracking effects of both the grooved pavement and bridge grating is almost eliminated.


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Good to know.
I've been looking at them for some time and will go with the larger ME880s to better align the speedometer, but not 'til I need them.

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We don't have any grooved roads here in my area that I am aware of, but I have the ME880's on mine and hardly every notice much of anything except the for the tar snakes. But then I guess no matter what tires you have, the tar snakes are gonna make anyone nervous on a hot or wet day.


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We have that problem up here, grooved roads from construction, grated bridges, tar snakes, and I hate those road gaters, but worst of all are the potholes.

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Have really bad grooved roads on the way to work and they are ALWAYS in 90 degree turns for some reason. Bike tends to wobble through the bad one's. I just slow down to a comfortable speed and drive through giving a little throttle. I will have to agree the potholes ARE the worst. Its like looking for landmines while riding.


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If you are open minded enough to consider going to the "Darkside", which is putting a car tire on the rear wheel of a cruiser motorcycle, you might find this link interesting.
http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2004/...eDarkSide.html

Daniel Myers is a biker and writer of the "Life is a Road" series of books about his experiences while riding. He currently rides a Honda Valkerie, and has ridden over 100k miles with a car tire mounted on it. If you look about half way through the article, he specifically addresses riding on grooved roads. Riding the Valk he hardly noticed the grooves. His friend riding an XS1100 with motorcycle tires found it considerably less comfortable.

craznurs ran a Vredestien car tire on her `85 vn700 for 15 or 20K miles, and it still had that much wear left when she sold it. She now has a larger Yamaha V-star with a darkside tire, and says she will never go back to MC tires on the rear wheel. If you are interested, do a google search on the darkside, and you will find several forums dedicated to the subject.

I am not trying to talk anyone into darksiding, but I am seriously considering trying it when I need a rear tire.

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I have heard from several people that you lose a lot of the mobility our bike has by going to the "darkside" and the bike doesn't corner worth a damn anymore.


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Mutazu GA Black hard bags w/ custom support brackets and relocation brackets made by Lance328
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