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How much Moly does Castrol LMM have ?

I can't see to find a spec sheet for castrol LMM which is availble in Australia.

Honda do not import theri Moly 60 anymore. Interestngly though I find this spec sheet for it and it only contains 20% Moly? Am i reading this right?

http://www.ratherbe.us/Moly60_MSDS.pdf

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Not correct. I have a tube of it here. It is Pro Honda Moly 60 Paste. Part number 08734-0001. Price here is $8.95 for 3 oz tube.

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I can't see to find a spec sheet for castrol LMM which is availble in Australia.

Honda do not import theri Moly 60 anymore. Interestngly though I find this spec sheet for it and it only contains 20% Moly? Am i reading this right?

http://www.ratherbe.us/Moly60_MSDS.pdf
Yes you are correct that is only 20% moly on the spec sheet.I know a lot of people don't agree with me but it truly matters how often and how well you lube the splines more than what you lube them with.
I used a high quality,high pressure grease,with a lower content of moly in mine and lubed them every rear tire change .They were always greased well when I took it apart and require cleaning again before lubing them again.I think that grease would be sufficient if you keep it up with every tire change.

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Not correct. I have a tube of it here. It is Pro Honda Moly 60 Paste. Part number 08734-0001. Price here is $8.95 for 3 oz tube.
I think he meant they weren't importing Honda Moly Paste into Australia and it is unavailable to him where he lives.




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Ebay. Seller ships worldwide. For more options on buying it, simply type "honda moly 60" in the ebay search box.

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denny6006 is correct about the grease. It doesn't "call" for using moly, just 17ml of a high temperature grease. I use the Honda 60 because it's good and I can get it easily. But a grease with 20% will work too. Just follow the manual and lube them right.
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" Honda do not import theri Moly 60 anymore. Interestngly though I find this spec sheet for it and it only contains 20% Moly? Am i reading this " End quote

The way I read his post is that he can't get it in Austalia, he has a spec sheet for it, and it is only 20%. That is not correct

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" Honda do not import theri Moly 60 anymore. Interestngly though I find this spec sheet for it and it only contains 20% Moly? Am i reading this " End quote

The way I read his post is that he can't get it in Austalia, he has a spec sheet for it, and it is only 20%. That is not correct
I went back and reread it, now I'm really confused .The MSDS sheet he is looking at is for a 55/60 weight moly grease which by weight is 20% moly,I think it is not Honda's Sheet for their grease or a lot of people(including me) have been misinformed about Honda lube being 60% moly....




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Correct on both accounts. Honda Australia do not import Honda Moly 60 into Australia. I note its availble on ebay, but thats a 2 week wait for me.

Yes the MSDS sheet (material data safety sheet) from Three bond, the makers of Moly 60, reads that it is only 20% Moly at best. Unless the MSDS is false (but why) than it would be be that it only contains 20% Moly. MSDS sheets need to be accurate due to safety and legal reason.

Can someone who has a Tube of Honda Moly 60 look at the % of moly in its contents on its packaging ?

Makes me wonder what type of grease the paid mechanics put on the splines these days? I am guessing its grease with less than 20% Moly.

I can readily buy Penrite grease with 3% Moly, and seeing as I have not had the spline open since buying my bike 3 weeks ago, this may do as an interim. I can always get a better grease and re grease it in a few thousand km's just to be safe.

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Also consider Guard Dog 570, which is actually 73% moly. But, before I found out about these high moly content pastes, I lubed my splines with plain old moly wheel bearing grease from Autozone. It worked fine. Never found any wear or damage. However, I did do it every 10,000 miles, roughly half the life of a tire. But I find that I am still doing it that often after switching to moly paste. Everytime I think about extending this interval, I see yet another picture of severely damaged splines, and change my mind.

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Thanks. This will be what I will do in the short term

I rang the Shell technical hot line and they only make a 5% moly. Its called an industrial Grease in Australia

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They thought 5% moly was high, as its a solid.

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