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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 04-13-2009, 08:30 AM Thread Starter
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Shifter stuck in Neutral

On Saturday during a short ride, as I was coming up to a stoplight. I was in 3rd and as I pulled up to the light and slowed I tapped down into 2nd then down once more, but only got neutral. with no unusual noise or anything else strange it is now completely stuck in neutral. The shift lever is making the full travel distance needed to shift, but nothing is happening.

Does this sound bad? I searched the forums and verses, but didn't find this exact thing happening. I am woefully non-mechanical. If you can't already see it on the outside of the bike I probably can't fix it, but I do know a couple of guys who could help.

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Hopefully someone else will chime in shortly, but here's a couple of thoughts: First, check your clutch cable (if you already have, then I apologize in advance) - it may have stretched slightly or gotten pulled slightly out of adjustment and needs a little tweak. Can't hurt to tweak it, anyway, and see if there's any change. Secondly, it's possible that the shift lever mechanism inside the crankcase came apart -that'll mean splitting the crankcase (ew). Anybody else have any thoughts? Were you able to get a lift home?

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The clutch cable seems to OK. It is making it's full range of movement. I should have mentioned that.

If this is a "pull the engine and split the case" problem at this time of year I am going to need therapy...and lots of alcohol!!

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If this is a "pull the engine and split the case" problem at this time of year I am going to need therapy...and lots of alcohol!!
Artman and I will send you the booze... I didn't enjoy splitting the case, and I never even bothered to put it back together (come to think of it, neither did Artman!).

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im thinking its more in the shift pawl area i recomend pulling the tansmission cover off and see if that asembly is working properly .... for the rod to come out or the sheft mechinism to break the amount of movement would have been noticable in the foot (assuming u ride more then a little) the other thing about that is that if it wasnt attached to the other side the range of motiion would be great....

If that spring popped out from behing the prawl it would cause whats happening...



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If you are feeling normal spring tension on the shift lever, I`m inclined to agree with seebeeare. Drain the oil and pull off the outer transmission cover. Check to see if the pawl is engaging one of the six arms on the end of shift drum and turning it when you try to shift into first gear. The pawl is the large, flat, forked steel piece you will see when the cover is removed. There are some good pictures of this in chapter six of the Clymers manual. Let us know what you find.

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Would you believe that I was in the middle of taking the ERC course when this happened? We were through with the morning session and headed out for lunch. I was expecting to do a write up of my impressions of the course today instead. Once I am back on two wheels I am going to schedule a retake.

I will check when I get home, but I do think that I have normal spring tension on the lever. I say that because the shift lever is is not hanging losely. It returns to it's normal resting position.

The shaft is also not moving in and out more than would be normal, 1/6th inch movement max.

Forgive my ignorance, but when you take off the cover you CAN look in there without **** coming apart and flying out? That is perceived outcome (in my mind) whenever I try to take something mechanical apart. Get to a certain point then SPRANG! 27 pieces fly out of unknown places.

I do have a Cymers. I'll study the pics and instructions, and see if I can make this happen.

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I haven`t pulled it myself, but everything I have read here or in the Clymers manual indicates nothing will fly out.

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nothing will fly out....
here is a pic in the lower quadrent there is what behind the tran cover /the one with the sight glass should lool like on the rt u see a gear looking thing and below is an arm with a wheel on te end of it to the left is the pawl and the pawl has a spring between there and that shaft... i hope this helps



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OK, I have two more questions before I do this.

First, since the lever is returning to it's normal resting place I assume that the Lever Return Spring is still in there doing it's thing, so I think what I hope for is that the culprit is the Pawl Spring. If that is the case can it be replaced?

Second, is there a gasket or o-ring on the Transmission Cover that will need to be replaced? Not only am I opening mine, but at the same time my friend who also has 750 has an oil leak from that cover. We are going to try to fix do both at the same time.

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