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God I hate the cold. Tonight i wanted to drain my gas tank because it is getting cold and I can't ride to work any more. Upon inserting my key and trying to unlock my gas cap, the key broke off in the cap...then took out my spare key and it didn't budge the lock either...I had to pry the lock apart and use a screw driver to force the lock. Now I have to rekey my bike...although I am thinking of waiting until I come back on R&R to fix it.
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OH NO, say it isn't so...
That really sucks. It must be freezing cold up there, Slim. You've got to come down to sunny Florida for a warm escape.

I hope you didn't scratch the u-know-what out of your tank.

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Check to see if the key has any numbers on it. Mind did, and the locksmith was able to make a new key from the numbers. He might be able to make a key from the 2 halfs if you are lucky.
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I found my spare key...so having a key isn't an issue...I found the key too late though and destroyed the lock on the gas cap.

and no I did not scratch the tank...I might have scratched the fuel cap, but not the tank
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God I hate the cold. Tonight i wanted to drain my gas tank because it is getting cold and I can't ride to work any more. Upon inserting my key and trying to unlock my gas cap, the key broke off in the cap...then took out my spare key and it didn't budge the lock either...I had to pry the lock apart and use a screw driver to force the lock. Now I have to rekey my bike...although I am thinking of waiting until I come back on R&R to fix it.
Sorry to hear about your lock trouble slim. Was the lock frozen or a mechanical problem? For anyone not used to dealing with freezing weather and auto or motorcycle locks, there are a few things you can do to avoid breaking keys off.

1. Preventative medicine-squirt in a little powered graphite lubricant now, before you need it and work the key in and out several times as well as back and forth, to smooth the lock up.

2. Little bottle of alcohol to squirt in frozen lock to free it up so you can turn it.

3. If your key head is all metal with no rubber or plastic permenantly attached, you can try heating it with a lighter ( a windproof one works best )and putting it in repeatedly until it thaws the ice in the lock enough to turn the key. If you`re at home a hair blow dryer might work too. Good luck.

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God I hate the cold. Tonight i wanted to drain my gas tank because it is getting cold and I can't ride to work any more. Upon inserting my key and trying to unlock my gas cap, the key broke off in the cap...then took out my spare key and it didn't budge the lock either...I had to pry the lock apart and use a screw driver to force the lock. Now I have to rekey my bike...although I am thinking of waiting until I come back on R&R to fix it.
That`s a PITA slim. Is this the first winter with freezing weather for you? Check the service station for a small bottle of methyl alcohol to squirt in a frozen lock, to displace the ice. It works ok usually, if the temp is only a few degrees below freezing. If it is really cold, you need to heat the key with a lighter (wind proof is best) or a small torch or heat gun. Flames are ok for a door lock, but be careful around the gas tank.

When you get it open, squirt in some powdered graphite lubricant. It might help prevent it from happening again. Good luck.

P.S.- I didn`t mean to post this twice. I thought I lost the first post and rewrote this one.

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not my first winter...not even close...no it wasn't frozen..That was my first thought... but after breaking the lock I decided to tear apart the gas cap to see how hard it will be for me to rekey it...I found the locking mechanism rusted very badly. So a new gas cap is in order
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not my first winter...not even close...no it wasn't frozen..That was my first thought... but after breaking the lock I decided to tear apart the gas cap to see how hard it will be for me to rekey it...I found the locking mechanism rusted very badly. So a new gas cap is in order
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Wow. That's a bummer. I have to say that my key is weak from getting bent in the lock, and then straightened, too many times. I pulled the cap, disassembled the whole thing and lubed with graphite, but it's still just a stubborn piece on both my Vulcans. Any ideas? I've thought of changing the whole tank out and turning it into a gravity feed system, but...

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Wow. That's a bummer. I have to say that my key is weak from getting bent in the lock, and then straightened, too many times. I pulled the cap, disassembled the whole thing and lubed with graphite, but it's still just a stubborn piece on both my Vulcans. Any ideas? I've thought of changing the whole tank out and turning it into a gravity feed system, but...
I use a few drops of Marvel air tool oil in ALL lock cylinders including ignition. It has Rust, Corrosion, and Moisture inhibiters. Works Great!


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