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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 04-30-2011, 07:10 PM Thread Starter
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Question Have read MANY posts on carbs/stuck floats...need advice still

I have a 1993 VN750 that I bought in 1999 with 7K miles on it. It sat for 4 years in a garage...I tried cleaning the carbs myself and put it all back together to find that fuel would just flow out the carb vent hose. So I took it to the shop and $750 later I had a great running bike with new floats and pins.
I rode it for about two year, probably 4-5 times a month...then I got a new job and it sat for another 2 years.
Now I'm trying to get her running again, and I"m experiencing the same fuel out the carb vent line issue. I drained the fuel tank and floats first, before trying to start her. One float was completely dry, the other had a tiny bit in it, but not dirty. It starts right up, but I have to give it good throttle to keep it running...smoke and fuel smell comes out the pipes...
I've tried running her like this 3 or 4 times...tried using the handle of a screw driver to unstick the float...drained the floats, and no dirt coming out.
I just put in some Seafoam into my tank today, drained the floats again (first), and now it seems even more fuel is coming out the vent line. I turned the petcock to the OFF position, and it will then idle and no fuel will spill out the vent...I tried the screwdriver handle tapping again, let it run for a minute, and the shut it off before the fuel ran out.
SO MY QUESTION IS (sorry for the super long review of my issue):
Should I keep trying to run her every few days with the Seafoam in the gas now, and keep tapping the carbs? Or do you think my floats are toast and I need to suck it up and take it to the shop again?
Thanks for any help.
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post #2 of 31 (permalink) Old 04-30-2011, 07:29 PM
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I will be keeping a CLOSE eye on this thread, as I am experiencing the exact same issue - but I have been riding my bike 3 to 4 times a week reglularly. Ran it low on gas the other night, it made 2 loud backfires, died, and I haven't been able to keep it running since.

When I can get it started, it pours smoke out of the right exhaust pipe, and will only stay running if I give it throttle. I am wondering about this "stuck float" trick - what exactly is that?

Appreciate any info or links. Thanks!

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the stuck float trick is to tap mildly (mind its aluminum) with the handle of a screw driver on the carb near the float area, screw driver handle or something similar so you can't hit it hard enough to crack or break something...

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hmm..

Those floats have been known to crack..then they are sinks . Did the repair shop actually replace them for sure? Might they have sealed em up with some fuel safe silicone or something and then 2 years later the silicon degraded and its a sink again?

SEEMS to me like all that tapping and sea foam would do at least something.. Except unsink a float.

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I really think your petcock might be the culprit here. Same thing happened to my bike because the petcock wouldn't close. I took it apart and did some stuff to it to get it to close properly and only let fuel pass with vacuum (as it's supposed to) and the problem went away.

If you wanna check this, just disconnect the fuel lines, but be prepared for fuel to come pouring out. This is when the petcock is on the "ON" position. When you turn it to the "OFF" position it closes with or without vacuum.
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Oh I just thought about a safer way to do it (which is common sense anyway lol). Put it in the "OFF" position, disconnect the fuel lines (fuel will still spill out from the lines, so be prepared) and after that, just turn the petcock to the "ON" position and if it's what I think it is, there will be a stream of fuel coming out. Return to the "OFF" position to make it stop or at least diminish it greatly.

If I'm right, you just need to rebuild the petcock.
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The problem is not the petcock. Even if the petcock remains open, the float valve should prevent flooding. So the float needle valve probably does not close properly because there is dirt between the needle and the needle seat. Tapping the float bowl with a screwdriver handle won't help. Seafoam may help and if not, the float bowl has to come off.
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The bike set for two yrs. You will probably need to re-clean the carbs. When setting a bike for that lenght of time one needs to condition the fuel to keep it from gumming up the carb and fuel tank.

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Thanks everyone for the input...I don't think it's the petcock, as that was bought new when I had it fixed the first time, as well as me paying for new floats and needles (according to the shop receipt).
I'm gonna try firing it up another day or two and see if the Seafoam gets me anywhere. I'm hesitant to pull the carbs and try to clean them myself, but I do want to save the money. Last time I was able to pull the carb out without too much trouble (I have a service manual), but I remember putting it back in was a HUGE pain in the A$$.
Also, last time I pulled it out, the floats and pins looks clean and moved freely. Is there anyway to test the floats when the carbs are pulled, and any suggestions on the easiest way to pull/test/clean/replace the carbs.
Thanks again everyone, I truly value the knowledge and advice...I have many other projects I need to do on this bike that I will be searching this forum on, but getting her running is first priority.
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I'm in the same boat, ran fine till it started spitting gas out of the tail pipe. I tried the seafoam and it got worse. Even though it runs fine, it won't make it up a small hill. You have taken them off before, how hard is it and do i have to sync the carbs if i just cleaned them? That wind sure needs to be felt, but my funds are telling me no. Would like to try to clean them myself, but it seems to be a witch to take them off.
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