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Angry hard to start after ear shave

Been working on a bobber build over the winter. did the ear shave, new MF battery, new plugwires with new NGK caps, 142 main and 42 pilot jets. Bike takes forever to start most times completely draining the battery and having to jump it off. once started, it runs great till i kill it again, plenty of power, no smoke out the exhaust. doesn't matter if hot or cold start. any help would be great. getting too nice out to have the scoot down any longer!!

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Been working on a bobber build over the winter. did the ear shave, new MF battery, new plugwires with new NGK caps, 142 main and 42 pilot jets. Bike takes forever to start most times completely draining the battery and having to jump it off. once started, it runs great till i kill it again, plenty of power, no smoke out the exhaust. doesn't matter if hot or cold start. any help would be great. getting too nice out to have the scoot down any longer!!
I had the same problem and the starter was dragging and pulling so many amps I had very weak spark at the plugs Iridium plugs helped but the starter was my problem,although you should check for loose or corroded connections first.JMO




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Been working on a bobber build over the winter. did the ear shave, new MF battery, new plugwires with new NGK caps, 142 main and 42 pilot jets. Bike takes forever to start most times completely draining the battery and having to jump it off. once started, it runs great till i kill it again, plenty of power, no smoke out the exhaust. doesn't matter if hot or cold start. any help would be great. getting too nice out to have the scoot down any longer!!
Make sure the battery is fully charged and install NGK DPR7EIX-9 spark plugs. Set the pilot screws @ 2-1/2 turns out and you can adjust from there. Set the choke about half way, you may need to adjust the pick-up coils to advance the ignition timing.

Did you put 2 shims under each needle?


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I'm in the same situation. Did the AGM batt and iridium plugs. Worked sweet for a year, now back to hard start and backfire. I suspect the starter is pulling too many amps away from the the system to function properly. If I push start, it bumps right over and fires right up.

This time, the starters going in for a rebuild at a local auto electric shop that I trust. I'll let you all know what the outcome is. While the starter's out, I'll adjust the pickup gap.

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I'm in the same situation. Did the AGM batt and iridium plugs. Worked sweet for a year, now back to hard start and backfire. I suspect the starter is pulling too many amps away from the the system to function properly. If I push start, it bumps right over and fires right up.

This time, the starters going in for a rebuild at a local auto electric shop that I trust. I'll let you all know what the outcome is. While the starter's out, I'll adjust the pickup gap.

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SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
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COASTERD
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LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
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Make sure the battery is fully charged and install NGK DPR7EIX-9 spark plugs. Set the pilot screws @ 2-1/2 turns out and you can adjust from there. Set the choke about half way, you may need to adjust the pick-up coils to advance the ignition timing.

Did you put 2 shims under each needle?
2 shims under each needle, battery fully charged. don't have the iridium plugs yet cause i don't want to foul high dollar plugs trying to get this thing to run.

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Relocated speedo
Relocated electronics
T/S removed
Tach removed
Dash removed
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Jardine exhaust
Relocated highbeam and oil indicators
Relocated ignition, horn, and highbeam switches

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So are you saying you are fouling the existing plugs now? Or was that just a "what if" statement? Have you checked your plugs while you are trying to start the bike? Are they wet?

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think i just need to adjust the carbs some more. starting to do a little better, have the pilot screws out about 3.5-4 turns, push starts just fine, maybe time to replace the starter...

Mods so far:
6" wide flat fender
Hardtail struts
Side mount license plate w/ Model A Ford tail light
KZ650 Headlight
Sprung solo seat
Relocated speedo
Relocated electronics
T/S removed
Tach removed
Dash removed
Suicide shift
Jardine exhaust
Relocated highbeam and oil indicators
Relocated ignition, horn, and highbeam switches

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So are you saying you are fouling the existing plugs now? Or was that just a "what if" statement? Have you checked your plugs while you are trying to start the bike? Are they wet?
got a little wet from all the cranking without firing off. want to get it dialed in some more before i get the good plugs

Mods so far:
6" wide flat fender
Hardtail struts
Side mount license plate w/ Model A Ford tail light
KZ650 Headlight
Sprung solo seat
Relocated speedo
Relocated electronics
T/S removed
Tach removed
Dash removed
Suicide shift
Jardine exhaust
Relocated highbeam and oil indicators
Relocated ignition, horn, and highbeam switches

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Chain sissybar
Chain shifter
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