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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-30-2009, 10:53 AM Thread Starter
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STA-BIL Marine Formula "The green Stuff" with Ethanol Treatment. I live in Daytona Beach, Fl The so-called Biker capitol of the world. Allways hot and very humid enviorment. Complains about bikes not running right a major topic around here. Been using Seafoam for years, but if you let the gas sit for a month, sput-sput starts again. Started asking questions around,even a employee of a auto parts store (a biker) Said he uses it but they don't sell it.

the theory is that the new Ethanol added fuels breakdown very quickly and Ethanol attracts water and is not good for rubber parts, which our carbs have. Strated using it a month now and have noticed much better engine proformance.

STA-Bil claims gas will be good for up to a year and it also has cleaning agents to clean fuel carbs & fuel system.
I use 1/4 oz. per tank. they say you can use more and it won't hurt engine!
You can buy at Auto Zone or Boating supply stores. price is about the same as SeaFoam but you use less resulting in a cheeper maintance cost

Would be interested if anyone else uses it and if they are having the same kind of success!
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I quit putting ethanol in the bike several months ago and the truck some time after that. Yes, alcohol attracts water. Seafoam also says it removes moisture from fuel.

I'm keepin' all the left over parts. I'm gonna use 'em to build another bike!
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I quit putting ethanol in the bike several months ago and the truck some time after that. Yes, alcohol attracts water. Seafoam also says it removes moisture from fuel.
How did you quit putting ethanol in the bike since its one of the ingredients at all fueling stations? Just curious.


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How did you quit putting ethanol in the bike since its one of the ingredients at all fueling stations? Just curious.
Well, locally there are a number of stations that don't add ethanol. Shell and Exxon being two of them. Walmart (Murphy Oil), Pilot, Flying J and quite a few others do add ethanol. I'm in Louisiana. Get your phone book out and call around. That's how I found out.

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Thanks flitecontrol. I was under the impression that all of the gas stations used ethenol in their tanks. Looks like I need to look around as you suggested.


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Yeah, I thought so too until I checked. There was talk in the state legislature or requiring it in all gas, but apparently that didn't pass.

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Seafoam was developed for the marine industry, because of the hi humidity marine vehicles are always used in, and one of it's strongest features is it's ability to work with moisture and make it burn through the system. It claims to give gasoline a 2 year shelf life. I've used it for several years and never had any problem, even when I had my bikes parked outside under a carport all the time. I seldom go more than a week with the bike parked, in fact the longest was about a month last year in the winter when I was away for training, and the seafoam in my gas tank did fine. My yard equipment gas tanks go for much longer though, including the 5 gallon gas can I keep in the garage, and as it always has seafoam in it, I've never had gas go bad since I started using seafoam. I understand that FL has much higher humidity than we have here in central Texas, but remember, condensation doesn't only form in fuel tanks, it can and will form on all parts of the bike, including inside the engine and cylinders, as well as around the spark plug boots.
Now, that new Stabil product might be a good product, but I won't be changing because of the 100% success I've had with Seafoam.

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Fergy; SeaFoam Junkie I agree. Also salt water air does not help. bitch to keep bike clean and rust free. As I said a alternative. but many bikers rave about it the guy a ADvanced Auto parts 1st told me about it "WHERE I BUY MY SEAFOAM"
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We have co-op cardlock stations that sell ethanol free gas. I think I'll join.

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There are many that will tell you to never use Stabil in your bike. The reason is just the opposite of what you seem to be sayinng, but I believe it was based on the original Stabil ...which had a bad habit of eating plastic carb parts.

I am not familar with the "STA-BIL Marine Formula "The green Stuff" with Ethanol Treatment" , but as I KNOW that Seafoam works , I also would be hesitant to switch to someting else.

Stabil , which ever kind, is predominitly used to "stabilize" fuel, for motors that tend to sit for long periods of time. One would think that living in FL you would be able to ride year round and not need a product like this.

Seafoam on the other hand can be used as a stabilizer, but it's main thrust is keeping the fuel system clean...be it fuel injectors or carbs. Even here in St. Louis , I have never "put my bike up" for the winter, as perhaps thanks to global warming, I still get a few rides in durring the winter months. So a stabilizer for my fuel tank is not needed here either.

I will however look into the product as my lawnmowers do get little use in the winter.

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