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Anyone used KBS coatings?

Anyone ever used this product? I did a search on it and came up with nothing, but some people mentioned other tank sealants dissolving over time and mucking with the carbs.

Thoughts? Experience? Anecdotes?

http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Cycl...-Kit_p_31.html
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Anyone ever used this product? I did a search on it and came up with nothing, but some people mentioned other tank sealants dissolving over time and mucking with the carbs.

Thoughts? Experience? Anecdotes?

http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Cycl...-Kit_p_31.html
First I've heard of the stuff. Anything would be better than Kream, I'd think, but I'd prolly still go with the electrical process mentioned elsewhere, myself.

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Can't say I have but reading the Discription has me confused. I'll highlight where..........

Gold Standard Fuel Tank Sealer is specifically formulated to stop rust and corrosion by forming a tough, fuel impervious coating while simultaneously sealing small pinholes and weld seams.

This kit contains our KBS AquaKlean (a water-based, heavy-duty, cleaner/degreaser) and KBS RustBlast (a powerful rust remover/metal etch) to obtain a permanently sealed, rust-free fuel tank. These KBS prep products are formulated with a unique Oxygen-Block Technology which reduces the occurrence of flash rust by over 80% and extends rust-free storage times by leaving a temporary protective coating in addition to a zinc phosphate film.


So is it permanent or temporary???

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Anyone ever used this product? I did a search on it and came up with nothing, but some people mentioned other tank sealants dissolving over time and mucking with the carbs.

Thoughts? Experience? Anecdotes?

http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Cycl...-Kit_p_31.html

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Can't say I have but reading the Discription has me confused. I'll highlight where..........

Gold Standard Fuel Tank Sealer is specifically formulated to stop rust and corrosion by forming a tough, fuel impervious coating while simultaneously sealing small pinholes and weld seams.

This kit contains our KBS AquaKlean (a water-based, heavy-duty, cleaner/degreaser) and KBS RustBlast (a powerful rust remover/metal etch) to obtain a permanently sealed, rust-free fuel tank. These KBS prep products are formulated with a unique Oxygen-Block Technology which reduces the occurrence of flash rust by over 80% and extends rust-free storage times by leaving a temporary protective coating in addition to a zinc phosphate film.


So is it permanent or temporary???
That's what had me wondering, too.

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The temporary coating is just to protect the metal while the process is being done. Once dry , the coating itself becomes the rust protector.

"These KBS prep products are formulated with a unique Oxygen-Block Technology which reduces the occurrence of flash rust by over 80% and extends rust-free storage times by leaving a temporary protective coating in addition to a zinc phosphate film."

You all highlighted the wrong words....lol


Another new one on the market is Stampede tank liner :
http://tinyurl.com/dlf7dm

(well has been used industrialy for 20 years, now available for motorcycle tanks )


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So a guy locally has an unused KBS kit for sale for $25. Should I get it and put it in the tank I am repainting or not needed?
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So a guy locally has an unused KBS kit for sale for $25. Should I get it and put it in the tank I am repainting or not needed?
Do you have any rust in the tank now?
Go into the Verses, down close to the bottom of the table of contents, and read the 2 or 3 threads on removing rust from a tank, and the electrolysis method for sealing the tank.

Then you have enough info to compare the KBS kit, and decide which you want to do, if any is needed.

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Pardon my newb-ness, but where are the Verses? (Presumably the Vulcan Verses.) I've heard of them. Aren't they on the VN750 Yahoo group or am I mistaken?
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Nope....... because it also says....

This kit contains our KBS AquaKlean (a water-based, heavy-duty, cleaner/degreaser) and KBS RustBlast (a powerful rust remover/metal etch) to obtain a permanently sealed, rust-free fuel tank. These KBS

So adding These KBS prep products....

Makes Me still ask the question.
Is it permanent or temporary?

Because if This Kit contains just a Prep Product then it's not a finish/ing product.

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The temporary coating is just to protect the metal while the process is being done. Once dry , the coating itself becomes the rust protector.

"These KBS prep products are formulated with a unique Oxygen-Block Technology which reduces the occurrence of flash rust by over 80% and extends rust-free storage times by leaving a temporary protective coating in addition to a zinc phosphate film."

You all highlighted the wrong words....lol


Another new one on the market is Stampede tank liner :
http://tinyurl.com/dlf7dm

(well has been used industrialy for 20 years, now available for motorcycle tanks )


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..Because if This Kit contains just a Prep Product then it's not a finish/ing product.
You are just reading too much into this. They are selling the "Gold standard fuel tank sealer" ALONG with a kit that contains the prep stuff (even some gloves to wear it seems)

It should have probly said "kit also contains" .. The prep stuff uses the temporay rust inhibitor which is want you would want if your pouring water into the tank...


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