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post #11 of 91 (permalink) Old 02-03-2009, 02:55 AM
 
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Hi Dianna

Many thanks for the description of the different front glasses in the headlights.

I have decided get the HID kit from Ebay (same as lance328), just waiting now for it come come to Kuala Lumpur.

All the three bikes use the H4 bulbs so it will be a good test to try out and see how well it works, on the VN750. I like the idea of the separate halogen bulb as the HI beam so it the xenon blows you still have a light source to get home with. With a blown xenon then a usual H4 can be fitted until a replacement is bought. The same Ebay supplied wanted US$30 for a spare Xenon bulb, too much at the moment to have stored on the shelf.

I am going to test with the existing wiring and if it seems ok, put a couple of relays in the lighting circuit, HI and LO relays and run a new power wire straight from the battery, then the higher turn on surge will not go through old wiring and switch contacts. Then I can fuse near the battery and protect the cable to the headlights against any shorts to the frame, larger cable as well, less voltdrop, lower current surge.

Now a question on the headlamp unit, if the existing headlamp glass and reflector do not work well with the Xenon bulb, where can Iget a replacement from and any ideas on approxmate cost ?

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Hey Davet,

I just bought a diamond cut capsule, there is a link below. The only problem is you have to remove the brackets fron the old HL and install the on the new HL w/ small screws and epoxy. As soon as I do mine I will post The process. Now If you have a Fairing you simply install the new HL. The kit works fine with existing wiring, just start the scoot before starting the H.I.D.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=270338210065


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CUSTOM PAINT
VANCE & HINES CRUZERS
EAR SHAVED AND RE-JETTED W/K&N'S
DUNLOP ELITE K591 FRONT & REAR
VOLTMETER
SYNTHETIC BRAKE FLUID
SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
SPLINES LUBED
ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
COASTERD
LEATHER SADDLE BAGS
LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
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I am going to test with the existing wiring and if it seems ok, put a couple of relays in the lighting circuit, HI and LO relays and run a new power wire straight from the battery, then the higher turn on surge will not go through old wiring and switch contacts. Then I can fuse near the battery and protect the cable to the headlights against any shorts to the frame, larger cable as well, less voltdrop, lower current surge.
You know, if you're going to do it up right and add relays and heavy gauge main feed from the battery, I recommend you wait to purchase the new lighting until after you run the stock halogen bulb on the new wiring. I did that and I found that the light output is about twice what it was before. The voltage drop was about 3 V through the stock harness, ignition, and reserve lighting unit and about 0.1 volts through the new wiring and relays. There's a writeup somewhere with the exact numbers.

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Hi Darrel

That is a good thought, I never thought of checking the volt drop through the wiring to the headlight, 3v (25%) is a lot to drop for such a short distance and that will significantly increase the current drawn by the bulb. Plus bypassing the reserve lighting unit will be a bonus, removal altogether would be the go.

I have already ordered the Xenon kit as the 3 bikes I have all use the H4 bulb, the VN was the easiest one to play with to see how it works. I really want the Xenon to fit into the Voyager as that is bike that I think would get the most use at night or dusk.

I'll let you know how it goes with the rewire and Xenon kit.

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Hi Darrel

That is a good thought, I never thought of checking the volt drop through the wiring to the headlight, 3v (25%) is a lot to drop for such a short distance and that will significantly increase the current drawn by the bulb. Plus bypassing the reserve lighting unit will be a bonus, removal altogether would be the go.

I have already ordered the Xenon kit as the 3 bikes I have all use the H4 bulb, the VN was the easiest one to play with to see how it works. I really want the Xenon to fit into the Voyager as that is bike that I think would get the most use at night or dusk.

I'll let you know how it goes with the rewire and Xenon kit.

Regards

With the Xenon kit you won't have to rewire since the ballast produces the high voltage needed to start the arc. Once it is lit it will use 1/3 less power than a standard Halogen and produce 3 times the output. Mine is working just fine without rewiring.


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REBUILT ENGINE
CUSTOM PAINT
VANCE & HINES CRUZERS
EAR SHAVED AND RE-JETTED W/K&N'S
DUNLOP ELITE K591 FRONT & REAR
VOLTMETER
SYNTHETIC BRAKE FLUID
SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
SPLINES LUBED
ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
COASTERD
LEATHER SADDLE BAGS
LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
CUSTOM GRIPS, MIRRORS, LEVERS
ORIGINAL STATOR & R/R 14.5v
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Hey Davet,

I just bought a diamond cut capsule, there is a link below. The only problem is you have to remove the brackets fron the old HL and install the on the new HL w/ small screws and epoxy. As soon as I do mine I will post The process. Now If you have a Fairing you simply install the new HL. The kit works fine with existing wiring, just start the scoot before starting the H.I.D.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=270338210065
Wait... now I'm confused. I'm sorry, but now that you've said "works fine with existing wiring"....
Do I need to buy BOTH this gizmo and the HID Conversion Kit? Or will just this guy do the job of getting me some nice H4 light?

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Wait... now I'm confused. I'm sorry, but now that you've said "works fine with existing wiring"....
Do I need to buy BOTH this gizmo and the HID Conversion Kit? Or will just this guy do the job of getting me some nice H4 light?
Yes! I said the system works fine with existing wire, MEANING "no rewiring needed" and YES! you need to install a capsule w/adiamond cut reflector to get the focused beam of a TRUE H.I.D. system. You can just install the new capsule and get a better focused light with an H4 bulb, but you will still have 1/3 the output of an H.I.D. system.

Once I install the new capsule I will post pictures of standard beam, H.I.D w/standard capsule, standard beam w/ new capsule, and H.I.D. w/new capsule.


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REBUILT ENGINE
CUSTOM PAINT
VANCE & HINES CRUZERS
EAR SHAVED AND RE-JETTED W/K&N'S
DUNLOP ELITE K591 FRONT & REAR
VOLTMETER
SYNTHETIC BRAKE FLUID
SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
SPLINES LUBED
ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
COASTERD
LEATHER SADDLE BAGS
LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
CUSTOM GRIPS, MIRRORS, LEVERS
ORIGINAL STATOR & R/R 14.5v
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Any progress on this new capsule and it's install process?

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Any progress on this new capsule and it's install process?
The capsule has not com in yet, I will post when I getter done.


85 VN700 "Old Yella"

REBUILT ENGINE
CUSTOM PAINT
VANCE & HINES CRUZERS
EAR SHAVED AND RE-JETTED W/K&N'S
DUNLOP ELITE K591 FRONT & REAR
VOLTMETER
SYNTHETIC BRAKE FLUID
SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
SPLINES LUBED
ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
COASTERD
LEATHER SADDLE BAGS
LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
CUSTOM GRIPS, MIRRORS, LEVERS
ORIGINAL STATOR & R/R 14.5v
DEKA MF AGM ETX15L

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This is SUCH an old thread but just had to post that I just installed the HID kit that Lance recommended and the whole job took about 15min. Just used existing wiring and will leave stock headlight/bucket in place and see how it works for a while. HID is SUPER bright but works great. If you think you might not be able to handle this mod, you're wrong, an 8-yr-old could do it. Mounted the ballast behind the left plastic yellow reflector and you can't see it unless you look REAL close. Anyway, many thanks to the Professor for all of his solid advice!!

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