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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 10-05-2008, 06:50 PM Thread Starter
 
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Quick question went to start the bike yesterday and the starter just spins. Before I tear into anything will a low bat cause this. The battery is dead now so I have to replace it. I did remove the starter and it looks good.
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While the starter is out bench test it to make sure it's working, and you be best off doing these check with a good battery.

If the starter was really "spinning" then the battery had enough to operate it, and so you'd look at the starter-engine engagement point. If it was spinning.

Which brings us back to the bench test...

Post what you find and we'll go from there.
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Ok, I'm editing 'cause, Doug, you got your post in before mine. I was gonna say that a low battery could cause the starter not to engage, simply because the starting system needs a bunch more juice than just running the bike. Low amps, low push = spin. N'est-ce pas? Or not?> I also said something about the solenoid, but I'm taking that back now (especially since this editing function allows me to take back everything I said!).

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no clicking the starter just spins for about 10 sec
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Well now I don't want to second-guess myself. Doug, solenoid?
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well thanks I'll get a new battery also is the starter clutch a pita
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well thanks I'll get a new battery also is the starter clutch a pita
First, is the battery a maintenance-free or wet cell? If the latter, definitely replace; if the former, try trickle-charging before repurchasing.

Second, I'm pretty sure you can get to the starter clutch without anything more than pulling the right-side engine cover (there's a frame member on the right side that allows you to get at the bolts for the cover; not so on the left, which is why a blown stator requires an engine pull). I'll double-check Clymer's, but I'm pretty sure it's not as bad as it might seem.

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Just put the motor back in 6 weeks ago front cylinder base gasket i;m getting tired
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If the starter is working, then everything from the button up to the starter is working.

So at that point, if the engine isn't doing anything, isn't responding to the starter motor, then the problem is starter-to-engine, of after....

If the starter moves the engine, but too slow to start, then it's back to the battery.

Clear as mud?
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I should add-I haven't had my starter off, I'm not familiar with how it engages the engine. Car and some outboard engines have the gear thats gets spun out onto a flywheel. If that' jammed, or doesn't spin, it won't engage.

I know a guy with a boat who replaced his battery but hooked up the cables in reverse, so besides blowing fuses, when he engaged the starter, the gear was spun in the opposite direction, being held against the starter body, rather than being spun out into the flywheel.

One of my bikes the starter was connected to the engine with a small chain.
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