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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 12-22-2007, 01:57 PM Thread Starter
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Question Mods for LED Turn Signals?

I'm still futzing around with the idea of installing LEDs in my turn signal units, but am getting conflicting info from the local auto stores about how to do this. I guess the good/bad of the LEDs is that they draw much lower current than standard bulbs, but the bad is that the turn signal unit thinks the bulbs' are burned out.

Soooo, I bought two LEDs from AutoZone or some such that have built-in resistors, on the advice that the resistors kept the signal unit from misunderstanding - they didn't work too well. And then I was looking at some LED turn signal boards from the Motorcycle Safety Store, and there was some subtext about getting a "solid state turn signal somethingorother" or a "load equalizer." Can someone clue me in as to what these might be? If I go to Napa or simliar, I'll get That Look again. I'd prefer to go in and ask for what I need, rather than relying on the judgement of the store clerks.

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Whatcha want is a heavy duty/ electronic turn signal flasher. Should be about $10...

Someone might have more specifics (When i switch my turnsignals to LED's I'll need to get the same)

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Curtis is right...whacha really want here is a solid-state turn signal relay, instead of the "dual-load equalizer".

It replaces the factory signal relay.....that's next to the fuse box, I believe.

The dual-load equalizer will have the same "juice" requirements as the bulb(s) you just replaced for the LEDs--so you're right back where you started (in terms of power requirements)!! Not cool.

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Or purchase a solid state flasher from signal dynamics and have an LED flasher along with self canceling turn signals. A little wire cutting and quick splices and you'll have it all.

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The dual-load equalizer will have the same "juice" requirements as the bulb(s) you just replaced for the LEDs--so you're right back where you started (in terms of power requirements)!! Not cool.
Exactly!!! I personally don't like the LED bulbs out there for our signals. Too dim and they don't reflect in the housing. I'm going to be talking to some vendors about a board for the turn signals. A dual 1157 post board for the front and a single 1156 for the rear signals. Add the solid state relay and you should be good to go plus if done correctly, they should be much brighter then the 1156/1157 bulbs currently in use.


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To (mainly) Bulldog:

With regard to approaching some different vendors about LED signals, I feel fairly certain I speak for everyone else when I say, "Go for it!!!".....

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To (mainly) Bulldog:

With regard to approaching some different vendors about LED signals, I feel fairly certain I speak for everyone else when I say, "Go for it!!!".....

The advantage to these boards in trying to get them put into production is that they will fit all VN750's, VN800's, VN1500's and maybe the VN1600's too. All have the same measurements in the turn signal buckets.


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If indeed the rear signal housings are the same size for all those model Vulcans, then I think it would be fairly difficult for someone like Clear Alternatives to say "no, we're not interested" to an idea like the above.

Cindy, I know this is not really the answer you were looking for, but until Bulldog is successful with one of the vendors for another light mod, I think your best bet for (rear) turn signal LEDs is the following:

http://electricalconnection.com/othe...star&sport.htm

If you have questions about the above system, just post them here as usual, and someone should be able to address them appropriately.....

BTW: why don't you start another thread, and tell us how "Orleans" is running these days??? I only hope she's running as good as she looks in those (daylight) photos you posted!!!....

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LED turn signal boards are out there. I'll post the www site when I get a chance. The boards were cool too. The kit came with a clear lens w/Red LEDS as running lights and Amber LEDS for turn signals on one board. They are available for or VN's now.
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Curtis is right...whacha really want here is a solid-state turn signal relay, instead of the "dual-load equalizer".

It replaces the factory signal relay.....that's next to the fuse box, I believe.

The dual-load equalizer will have the same "juice" requirements as the bulb(s) you just replaced for the LEDs--so you're right back where you started (in terms of power requirements)!! Not cool.
That's funny - before I checked the Forum (just now), I'd come to the same conclusion, that whatever "equalizer" is out there, it's drawing more current than the LEDs and probably close to (ok, equal to) the standard bulbs. I have seen a couple of turn signal boards (mostly for HDs), so if CA were to make those, I'm sure they'd have a huge market.

theauhawk, Orleans is running pretty well, although I'm still working some of the bugs out (like, I put the spring back in the petcock for the vacuum system, but apparently put it in wrong - ergo, I'm back to blocking off the vacuum lines for gas flow). But I had her running for awhile yesterday as I futzed around with the clutch adjustment, and I think all of the things that needed to burn off, did (like the stuff I used to make the gasket on the right exhaust pipe...). I still need to do some wiring checks to figure out where I'm losing power to the headlight, but hopefully I can get that all cleared up in the next couple of days. She sounds good, in spite of the recalcitrant gremlins!
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