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How to make the simplest wiring possible?

Just wondering if the whole electrical system can be safely simplified to running no safety switches at all, just the starter switch, kill switch and lights.

This being an 85 model, I'm constantly running into electrical problems because of old wiring or components and since I really hate electrical troubleshooting, I'm wondering if this can be done and if it won't have any detrimental effects on anything (like the charging system). I'm thinking of buying a bunch of new cable and just wiring stuff up (obviously with your help, I'm no electrical whiz).

All thoughts and advice highly appreciated. Thanks!

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Slim did it, and NewRider posted up a thing about safety bypasses in Builds....



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Slim did it, and NewRider posted up a thing about safety bypasses in Builds....
perform the bypass 's in JB (Junction Box) ....wiring sb straight forward.


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I already have the safety bypass... I was thinking of getting rid of the junction box altogether and just run separate relays to the essential stuff. I don't know if that's a bad idea or not though. I have the ability to do it, I just don't have the knowledge to know if it's a good or bad idea.

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I already have the safety bypass... I was thinking of getting rid of the junction box altogether and just run separate relays to the essential stuff. I don't know if that's a bad idea or not though. I have the ability to do it, I just don't have the knowledge to know if it's a good or bad idea.
Slim would be a good source for answers.


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Iridiums DPR7EIX-9 & Wires, Tuxedo Mod, Coil Mod, P/U Sensor Mod, Fork Seals,
Splines Lubed - 11/4/2012 - MF AGM Battery
Additional Flashing LED Brake Light on Trunk
Dampers went out @ 13+K !
After TOC MCCT's..... so amazingly quiet I discovered a rattling heat shield on my stock exhaust !
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As long as you're putting in new fuses to replace the one's when you toss out the JB, I don't see any problem with it myself. At this point, the only thing my JB is being used for is the fan relay and the fuses. Everything else is bypasses at this point.

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I havea few questions Ceal
1: how simplified are you trying to go.
2: aftermarket universal ignition switch
3: stock Junction box, or are you going to run a custom fuse box?
4: stock charging system and ignition system?
5: is the intake stock.?

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I already have the safety bypass... I was thinking of getting rid of the junction box altogether and just run separate relays to the essential stuff. I don't know if that's a bad idea or not though. I have the ability to do it, I just don't have the knowledge to know if it's a good or bad idea.
I ran my own automotive relays (pictured in my schematic above) and my own fuse box, removing as much of the circuits as I could. My diagram above shows the safety switches still there, which are no longer in my system. I do have the NSS (neutral safety switch) incorporated to my Starter Solenoid ground circuit. so in order for the Starter Solenoid to ground out, the transmission has to be in neutral.
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I'm not at home right now... I will be home saterday, and will post all the information you will need.

I havea few questions Ceal
1: how simplified are you trying to go.
2: aftermarket universal ignition switch
3: stock Junction box, or are you going to run a custom fuse box?
4: stock charging system and ignition system?
5: is the intake stock.?

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1.- I was shooting for bare essentials to keep the bike running and have all lights working too.
2.- Didn't think about that, I wouldn't mind if I had to put a universal one in.
3.- I was thinking of getting the stock junction box out of there, but seeing the wiring diagram you just put up, it would probably be easier for me to just ground out all the safety switches and keep everything else stock (just like I'm running it now).
4.- Yes.
5.- So far, yes. Although, all I'm missing to do an earshave is the pod filters. Well, I did the marbling, so maybe not absolutely stock.

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