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another stator. wonder if i can make it better, i need input!

Well yesterday i got stuck in traffic on the way to work. bout an hours worth of stop and go in 100 deg temps. the thermostat was showing the engine sitting just above the lil temp icon in the gauge the whole time. the moment traffic opened up, i gunned it(already late for work) but it just didnt go. i accelerated some, but not like it should. then 15 seconds later the engine cut out. pulled over gave her a look over, switched the fuel petcock to reserve then tried to start her after 15 mins and i got a small start and died again. ended up getting a tow job back to the apartment. For now i havent tested her to see where the problem lies, but deep down i know its a stator and maybe my r/r too. BTW mileage is at 9093 and oil change done at every 3k

This weekend i will start on the testing and break her down. I started to look over then engine and think while waiting for a tow(2.5 hrs in 103 heat is great ). I came up with a few ideas and wanted to bounce them off ya'll and see what ya think. This is my daily driver, and she needs to be as reliable as can be. I put on over 1000 miles a month.

Right now i have a stock of stock bike. I have a custom LED tail light in the works (still working on a circuit) that will reduce the total wattage of the tail down to 2 watts running, and 9 watts stop. i will also be switching out the turn signals to led as well.
Next on my list is exhaust. not sure if i should do a goat belly mod, cap the pipes and switch to a dyna muffler, or just swap out to a set of cruzers. I will also do a R/R move, and install a heatshield under the battery.
As i looked at the radiator i quickly realized, this is a single pass system, and the fan is horrible. A few ideas here. I plan to see if i can install a better fan maybe even larger, and set up a better suction system to get more air throught the radiator. I was also looking at installing an oil cooler to help get engine temps down.
My final idea comes directly at the stator. I plan to get mine rewound, using a larger gauge wire, and a better epoxy then was originally used. i also plan to see if i can modify it to get more heat moved to the stator cover, and install a heat sink onto the cover to move any extra heat.

Since i am a college student, money is a big thing. I know the heat sink and larger gauge rewind is in my price area along with the better fan and the goat belly mod. so lemme know what ya think might work. maybe we can get this problem solved once and for all....

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This is the wrong bike if you're gonna get stuck in traffic.

You in engineering? If so, and you've been there a while (or at least have some ME friends), talk to one of the thermodynamics instructors about this, or take your ideas to the students in the ME department. You might be the one that comes up with a solution to our problems!

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Dang it Hizzo3! I'm sorry to hear about your woes. I hope that's not what it is, but it sounds like you have some good ideas about bettering your situation if it is.
did you have an MF battery on the bike? I'm just curious. I guess I better get my RR relocated. This heat is rough.

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no i didnt, but i checked the water religiously....yeah get your r/r relocated.

Actually i am working on my electrical engineering deg. But on the flip side, i used to do high end PC's. I am talking Phase change cooling type. Water cooling was in there too. I think i may look into so heat pipes....those look promising with a copper (nickle chromed to keep with the silver color) heat sink.

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Crap! Went out at lunch and saw a roofing nail in my rear tire. 3 month old D404 that still looks like new. Dang that ticks me off.

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Another EE on the boards. Cool. Funny thing, I was looking at using a liquid intercooler for a PC to cool the incoming air to the cylinders. Nah, I've got enough work around the house...

Ferg - YOU CAN plug the tire. I had to do it on my original back tire, 'cause no fix it shop would do it. Don't know if you've ever tried, but it's REEEEL easy. I don't get flats on anything fixed anymore. Some say don't do it. But ya can...

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I plug tires all the time. My riding lawnmower tires look like they have gum stuck all over them. Just pulled a screw outa my truck tire last weekend and plugged it. But, you are the first person I've heard that said it's ok to plug a bike tire. Everyone else I know says don't do it.

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I drove on mine for about 10K miles before I had to replace the tire. I think when you do it yourself, you are more careful with the tire when riding.
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Another EE on the boards. Cool. Funny thing, I was looking at using a liquid intercooler for a PC to cool the incoming air to the cylinders. Nah, I've got enough work around the house...
Why? the air that is incoming is already from the outside....not like ur sucking in hot air like a car does.... you would be better off closing the intake hole on the "ears" (since ist sucking warm air off the cyl.) and putting a vented plastic where on the chrome side.

although you did give me an idea with the water cooling unit.....i could make a custom water block (i'll use aluminum and anodize it siver to match the block) and attach it to the stator cover, and tap into the return from the radiator....that should provide more then ample cooling... that mixed in with a fan upgrade......ohhh i like it already.

BTW anyone know how many turns to wind our stators??????

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nat'l cycle deflector shield
westco 12v30 MF, 30A/h w/ 350 CCA's w/ custom box
TOC stator cover w/ Frankenstator mod!
R/R relo

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TOC ACCT's
Mez's 110-FRT 170/80-Rear
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oh and fergy, you can plug a tire no problem....

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TOC stator cover w/ Frankenstator mod!
R/R relo

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