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Push starting in 1st?

Recently had trouble getting my bike started. I might've flooded the carbs and after trying to start it a dozen times it didn't even turn over. After a lot of fussing I found that if I rolled it while it was in first gear and hit the ignition button it would start right up. Is this a dead battery? Can I recharge it, or should I buy a new one? If I have to buy a new one, can anyone send me links to an acceptable battery that I should purchase?
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If you are able to get the bike into a higher gear, push staring is easeir. But I understand that it is impossible to go into a higher gear. I have never tried it.

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it is difficult to get into 2nd, if you have a slight grade its a little easier as you have to get up a little speed to get it in 2nd.
if you buy a new batt get an agm maintenece free. bought mine at autozone but others will chime in soon with some links to ones they prefer!

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for a good/cheap MF battery for the VN750, try Big Crank batteries

www.bigcrank.com

if it goes vroom or boom, I LIKE IT!
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Do you have a voltage meter to check the battery?
You can try recharging the battery for 4-5 hours at a rate no higher than 2 amps.

Push starting Kawis is difficult because the Positive Neutral Finder prevents shifting into 2nd gear until the bike is rolling and has built up a little speed.

Here`s the MF AGM Deka battery made by East Penn:
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You misunderstood ... I am fully able to push start the bike at a roll in first gear, however, it won't start at rest in neutral.
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Push starting Kawis is difficult because the Positive Neutral Finder prevents shifting into 2nd gear until the bike is rolling and has built up a little speed.
Do you know if this was available in the 1985 VN700? If it was, I don't think mine works lol.
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Do you know if this was available in the 1985 VN700? If it was, I don't think mine works lol.
As far as I know all model years had the PNF. It is comprised of 3 little ball bearing in recesses in a tranny gear that are thrown to the outer circumference by centrifugal force as spinning begins. Yours must be stuck in some way.

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You misunderstood ... I am fully able to push start the bike at a roll in first gear, however, it won't start at rest in neutral.
Vulcanpower, I guess it is more accurate to say Kaws are more difficult to push start than if you could do it in second or third gear. I have never push started a bike, but I have with many cars and trucks over the years. First gear almost always skidded the tires in my experience. The mechanical advantage of 2nd or 3rd gear was always easier and more successful for me. Just saying.

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Recently had trouble getting my bike started. I might've flooded the carbs and after trying to start it a dozen times it didn't even turn over. After a lot of fussing I found that if I rolled it while it was in first gear and hit the ignition button it would start right up. Is this a dead battery? Can I recharge it, or should I buy a new one? If I have to buy a new one, can anyone send me links to an acceptable battery that I should purchase?
Sounds like pushing the bike in gear reduced how much work the battery had to do and allowed it to crank. So I would think the battery may be weak. Charge it and see how many volts it has. If not 12.5 or better it's probably no good. Could also take it to a place like AutoZone, etc. and have it load tested.

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Same with mine Ceal. I can roll it a few inches, and it will slide right into 2nd. I can even spin the rear wheel by hand and it will go in 2nd.
I will have to consult the manual and see where those balls are, and try to fix them.
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