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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 11-13-2010, 08:50 PM Thread Starter
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well the saga continues I have a 95 vn750 project bike. didnt know it was going to be a project however. lol
I just replaced the running lights and brake lights with led bulbs. Now the two rear running lights only work as turn indicators not as running lights. replaced with incandescent and the same result

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Normally the two rear turn signals are just that, turn signals. The parts you replaced are actually functioning as designed.
The rear turn signals can be upgraded into full time running lights however, as well as brake lights, too.
But from the factory, all ya got is turn signals.
There are a number of threads on LED conversions and such. You'll definitely find info there as to how to do it.
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thank you what great news. I have been going crazy trying to reason this out. lol/
I am learning but its been a slow process.
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The assorted websites that sell LED lights also sell what's called a load equalizer. I'm not sure if it's something specific to the type of LEDs or if it's the load equalizer, but between the two, you can wind up with full time running lights, additional brake lights, and the turn signals.
There's a world of difference between just the factory turn signals and the full time arrangement with the additional brake lights.
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The assorted websites that sell LED lights also sell what's called a load equalizer. I'm not sure if it's something specific to the type of LEDs or if it's the load equalizer, but between the two, you can wind up with full time running lights, additional brake lights, and the turn signals.
Older blinker units rely on the bulb's electrical load to determine if the bulb is good or not. This is by design and allows you to get a faster blink when one of your bulbs goes out. LEDs are a much lower load than incandescents, so the older blinkers will think that the bulb is bad and fast-blink. Load equalizers just add more load so that the LED bulb looks like an incandescent bulb to the rest of the electrical system. See http://www.customled.com/products/lo..._equalizer.htm for more info. Using them essentially negates any of the power savings of switching to LEDs, since you're now using resistors to convert that difference to wasted heat instead (the overall load might still be lower, but you're throwing away some of the power savings to make your new bulbs look more like the old ones to your blinker).

A better solution is to replace your old blinker with a new electronic one. They work differently, and therefore won't fast-blink with LEDs. I've read that the Tridon EP34 should fit our bikes.

It would be possible to get a multifunctional unit that provided load equalization for the LEDs and added running lights. However, with the stock system, the blinker simply powers the lights on and off when you use your turn signal. The new unit would need to wire in elsewhere (usually the taillight) to get constant lighting. It's physically impossible for something that only touches the two stock wires of the rear signals to turn them into running lights (since the stock blinker controls power to those wires and wouldn't act any differently).

For those of you looking to do budget conversions, check out your local laws. Some locations have restrictions on the colors your rear lights can be. My cousin and I got license plate frames with colored plate illumination back in high school. We were driving home one night, me leading and him following, and he got pulled over for it. Simply wiring up your amber turn signals to run all the time might lead to legal troubles.


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At the risk of derailing the original subject of this thread...read the following...that was posted a while back, to address the issue of load equalizers...the relay mentioned in this link is still available, but maybe a bit more expensive than before:

https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthrea...hlight=flasher

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