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Sorry KM, but I'm with Lance on this one. Never seen any Halogen bulb on the market the can compare to the output of light a HID light full kit puts out. I've also heard and read much feed back on these "halogen bulbs" and from what I've gathered, they are nothing but a rip off.

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Keep in mind I came across that site when it was mentioned by another Vulcaneer. I did not say I agree with the all that was written, I just posted it for information purposes only.

I do in some ways agree with the jist of what the guy was saying, but reading between the lines , my take was this:

You will get the MOST out of an HID system if it in fact includes the lens and reflector built for it. Retro-fitting a HID bulb in a stock H4 light may actually work well, but won't be as good as a complete system.

The info on the site seem to question the quality of some of the HID kits, and this is likely true, or was true. Most accessories folks pick up here tend to be tested by other members and via the "word of mouth" on the internet I think the crappy kits have died off for the most part. If a member has good luck with one, you have your work done for you.

I do know that many of the high output Halogens can present a problem with bikes that use plastic lenses and reflectors. Not sure how hot a HID bulb gets BTW.

The aspect of the "LAW" however seems a bit sketchy. Has anyone on a bike been pulled over to have their lighting examined?

I think my pick would be to install seperate outboard HID lights, Only because I can point them exactly where I want and they can supliment my exsisting headlights rather than replace them. My Vulcan did have 20w halogen driving lights:
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They , even for their small combined output (40w) really did make a big differnce when it got dark, and I could point the light on the right more off to the side of the road on the right , which did on a few occasions point out some deer.

I however, as mentioned in another post, avoid riding at night like the plague.


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Keep in mind I came across that site when it was mentioned by another Vulcaneer. I did not say I agree with the all that was written, I just posted it for information purposes only.

I do in some ways agree with the jist of what the guy was saying, but reading between the lines , my take was this:

You will get the MOST out of an HID system if it in fact includes the lens and reflector built for it. Retro-fitting a HID bulb in a stock H4 light may actually work well, but won't be as good as a complete system.

The info on the site seem to question the quality of some of the HID kits, and this is likely true, or was true. Most accessories folks pick up here tend to be tested by other members and via the "word of mouth" on the internet I think the crappy kits have died off for the most part. If a member has good luck with one, you have your work done for you.

I do know that many of the high output Halogens can present a problem with bikes that use plastic lenses and reflectors. Not sure how hot a HID bulb gets BTW.

The aspect of the "LAW" however seems a bit sketchy. Has anyone on a bike been pulled over to have their lighting examined?

I think my pick would be to install seperate outboard HID lights, Only because I can point them exactly where I want and they can supliment my exsisting headlights rather than replace them. My Vulcan did have 20w halogen driving lights:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/knifema...7602271287644/

They , even for their small combined output (40w) really did make a big differnce when it got dark, and I could point the light on the right more off to the side of the road on the right , which did on a few occasions point out some deer.

I however, as mentioned in another post, avoid riding at night like the plague.


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I agree that there could be some rip HID kits out there as well, but I also trust in buying the same exact one that Lance has used for the last 2 yrs, as I know for sure this one is not a rip off.


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Just bought the HID conversion kit on ebay. Should have it by Friday.


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I'll see you next weekend @ Ron's for HID install!
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I will go along with you for more light to upgrade to Lance`s HID suggestions.

However, to make myself more visible to oncoming drivers, and enable them to better judge my speed and distance, I have some LED lights that are going to be mounted down on the lower fork tubes. This will give me a triangle of light similar to what you see on a railway locomotive. A light bar will give more light too, as well as some perception of width, But the triangle gives 3 distinct points of light. I am not sure how much additional illumination the LED lights will give me, but that is not my primary reason for installing them. Being noticed by other drivers is.

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I will go along with you for more light to upgrade to Lance`s HID suggestions.

However, to make myself more visible to oncoming drivers, and enable them to better judge my speed and distance, I have some LED lights that are going to be mounted down on the lower fork tubes. This will give me a triangle of light similar to what you see on a railway locomotive. A light bar will give more light too, as well as some perception of width, But the triangle gives 3 distinct points of light. I am not sure how much additional illumination the LED lights will give me, but that is not my primary reason for installing them. Being noticed by other drivers is.
I agree that being seen is important. But seeing what is in my direct path, especially in the early morning hours that I ride to work in as well as when I ride at night is very important to me. I will not have enough time to react if I don't see something in enough time and will surely hit what I can not see at all. This is not a good thing. Thus, more light to see is required.


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Volt gauge w/ custom mounting cup by Lance328 wired into headlight bucket 13.5v-14v
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