Idea for r/r and stator longevity - Kawasaki Vulcan 750 Forum : Kawasaki VN750 Forums
Electrical
Where does this wire go?
Includes Electrical mods, Lights, Stator,
Rectifier, Diagrams, etc

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-11-2010, 10:46 PM Thread Starter
Old Truck Junkie
 
niterider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Roby Texas
Posts: 4,130
iTrader: (15)
 
Idea for r/r and stator longevity

Has anyone tried installing a small fan, kind of like the ones in the computer, on the r/r?? And also running the oil through an oil cooler located so the radiator fan can blow air throught it?? The r/r fan could come on with the radiator fan. This idea would be for city riders.

02 honda sabre 1100
niterider is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-11-2010, 10:56 PM
Sparky!!!
 
slimvulcanrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 8,695
iTrader: (3)
   
Garage
I have thought of the R/R fan idea... now to go along with your oil cooling... look up the oil cooled stator... i think those two ideas connected could make something very workable...
slimvulcanrider is offline  
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-12-2010, 01:35 AM
Senior Member
 
dirtrack650's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Castle Rock, Wa
Posts: 1,750
iTrader: (0)
 
I think using 20-50 oil and 4 liters like the books recommend and it's stamped on the engine case, may help keep the stator cool.

DT

95 VN750 (eBay)31k+
GL1100 front fender
OEM engine guard
OEM high back rest
'V-Twin' HWY pegs
Black 750 Spectre handlebars
SunPro Volt Meter (Amazon)
Maier bug shield (JCW)
Bar Ends anti-vibe (JCW)
Emgo air filters
Tank bag-Eclipse
Tail bag-FroZone Cooler
Back Rest-Igloo 6 pak cooler
WalMart Saddle Bags
R/R Relocate
Dry Splines Lubed
AGM DieHard-Sears
Gutted Goat
Sporster XL Mufflers
LED's-stop,tail,turn,marker
Pickup coil mod to .45mm
Silverstar headlight
Rotella T6
dirtrack650 is offline  
 
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-12-2010, 09:45 AM
Senior Member
 
darrelc5's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 207
iTrader: (0)
 
Since the stator is supposed to be oil-cooled, it might benefit from more oil ON the stator. I modified a stator cover with a sight glass and observed the stator while the engine is running - there is barely a mist of oil circulating in that cavity, even at higher RPMs. That led me to route an oil line to spray the stator with engine oil. That was 35,000 miles ago and the stator coils are free of heat discoloration to this day.

Checkout: Further protection for your stator

Darrel
'03 Vulcan 750 (90k miles)
-Corbin Seat
-V-Force Windshield
-LeatherLyke Touring Bags
-Chrome Luggage Rack
-Headlight Modulator
-Brakelight Flasher
-MF Battery
-Heads-Up Voltage Monitor
-Replaced Stator (9,000 and 16,000 mi.)
-Oil-cooled Stator Mod (photos)
-Replaced and Relocated R/R
-Greased rear splines
-Fused Stator (photos)
-Metzeler ME880 Marathon 170/80-15 (Rear), 110/90-19 (Front)
-TOC MCCTs installed
-Headlight Relays
SOLD - 2013
darrelc5 is offline  
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-12-2010, 08:10 PM
Linkmeister Supreme
 
OlHossCanada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 7,960
iTrader: (8)
   
darrel, I went back and looked your oil plumbing system for cooling the stator over, and it seems a sound idea to me.
I like the second idea even better as it does not require pulling the engine.

In your edit about tapping into the connection for the oil line to the hydraulic lash adjusters, you seem to be describing the fitting in this picture with the oil pressure gauge attached:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2339973...7605602927618/

Is this right?

I am somewhat leery of using copper tubing, as vibration will eventually work harden it and cause it to crack. Perhaps the short lengths you have used in your own bike`s internal cooling system, are not so vulnerable to vibration fatigue as longer pieces could be.

It would be interesting to install the sight glass modified stator cover onto your bike now, too see just how much cooling oil gets to the stator.

Gordon

1991 VN 750 -"Cosmic Lady" or "Bad Girl"?
Purchased May 16, 2008
Approx.19,300km (12,000 miles)

H-D windshield
Relocated R/R
MF-AGM battery
Fiamm Freeway Blaster horns
F&S luggage rack and engine guard
Kury Offset Hiway pegs
July 13, 2016, Riding on the DARKSIDE now, Classic Radial 165/80-15


TOP TEN THINGS A NEW RIDER/OWNER SHOULD DO. Click on link.
https://www.vn750.com/forum/11-vn750-general-discussion/9127-top-ten-items-you-would-suggest-new-owner-do-his-new-ride.html
OlHossCanada is offline  
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-13-2010, 04:55 AM
Members who have donated towards server costs
 
KIMMERLING's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: SAN ANTONIO, Texas
Posts: 1,126
iTrader: (7)
 
Send a message via Skype™ to KIMMERLING
Totally. I will take one stator lubircator system please. How much?

2011 Suzuki VSTROM DL650 with ABS Purchased Jan 28 now with 39,000miles WRECKED JAN 12 ,2013
"To strive, to seek, to find, not to yield."
05 Vulcan 750 26,050miles *Traded in*
Ventura guards
MadStadt mount
Givi windshield/Heated grips
Backoff
Riderbeads
Givi 52 topcase
Pat Walsh Crash bars skid plate
OEM centerstand
Headlight modulator
Battery tender
Aquarium thermometer with forward probe mount
Admore LED Lighting/Givi E36N panniers
KIMMERLING is offline  
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-13-2010, 04:24 PM
Senior Member
 
darrelc5's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 207
iTrader: (0)
 
Gordon, that's the fitting in the picture. I figure it would be better to connect there where the oil passage is much larger than downstream in the HLA tube.

First thing I did after putting the engine back together is test the oil pressure, which you can see in one of the pictures. Second was to mount the modified side cover and, man, oh man, there is a lot of oil flinging around in the flywheel cavity! The nozzles spray directly into the spinning flywheel, and it's rotation splashes it all over the stator.

A kit could be made up for the external tubing mod, and it should be pretty cheap when parts are bought in bulk. Somebody should do that....

Darrel
'03 Vulcan 750 (90k miles)
-Corbin Seat
-V-Force Windshield
-LeatherLyke Touring Bags
-Chrome Luggage Rack
-Headlight Modulator
-Brakelight Flasher
-MF Battery
-Heads-Up Voltage Monitor
-Replaced Stator (9,000 and 16,000 mi.)
-Oil-cooled Stator Mod (photos)
-Replaced and Relocated R/R
-Greased rear splines
-Fused Stator (photos)
-Metzeler ME880 Marathon 170/80-15 (Rear), 110/90-19 (Front)
-TOC MCCTs installed
-Headlight Relays
SOLD - 2013
darrelc5 is offline  
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-14-2010, 02:30 AM
Members who have donated towards server costs
 
KIMMERLING's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: SAN ANTONIO, Texas
Posts: 1,126
iTrader: (7)
 
Send a message via Skype™ to KIMMERLING
I will contribute 100$ to the support and development of a stator lubricating/cooling system that would advance Vulcan 750's to the next level. This could have potential patent possibilities if someone perfected it.

2011 Suzuki VSTROM DL650 with ABS Purchased Jan 28 now with 39,000miles WRECKED JAN 12 ,2013
"To strive, to seek, to find, not to yield."
05 Vulcan 750 26,050miles *Traded in*
Ventura guards
MadStadt mount
Givi windshield/Heated grips
Backoff
Riderbeads
Givi 52 topcase
Pat Walsh Crash bars skid plate
OEM centerstand
Headlight modulator
Battery tender
Aquarium thermometer with forward probe mount
Admore LED Lighting/Givi E36N panniers

Last edited by KIMMERLING; 04-14-2010 at 02:31 AM. Reason: oops
KIMMERLING is offline  
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-14-2010, 04:24 AM
Sparky!!!
 
slimvulcanrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 8,695
iTrader: (3)
   
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by KIMMERLING View Post
I will contribute 100$ to the support and development of a stator lubricating/cooling system that would advance Vulcan 750's to the next level. This could have potential patent possibilities if someone perfected it.
its already been done...

Quote:
Originally Posted by darrelc5 View Post
Since the stator is supposed to be oil-cooled, it might benefit from more oil ON the stator. I modified a stator cover with a sight glass and observed the stator while the engine is running - there is barely a mist of oil circulating in that cavity, even at higher RPMs. That led me to route an oil line to spray the stator with engine oil. That was 35,000 miles ago and the stator coils are free of heat discoloration to this day.

Checkout: Further protection for your stator
slimvulcanrider is offline  
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-14-2010, 05:11 AM
Linkmeister Supreme
 
OlHossCanada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 7,960
iTrader: (8)
   
slim you need sleep, that is the post we are talking about. It is 3:10 am now, so I`m going to bed too. 8)

Gordon

1991 VN 750 -"Cosmic Lady" or "Bad Girl"?
Purchased May 16, 2008
Approx.19,300km (12,000 miles)

H-D windshield
Relocated R/R
MF-AGM battery
Fiamm Freeway Blaster horns
F&S luggage rack and engine guard
Kury Offset Hiway pegs
July 13, 2016, Riding on the DARKSIDE now, Classic Radial 165/80-15


TOP TEN THINGS A NEW RIDER/OWNER SHOULD DO. Click on link.
https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9127
OlHossCanada is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Kawasaki Vulcan 750 Forum : Kawasaki VN750 Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

Once registered, your User Name"cannot be changed". We can make exceptions within 7 days, but after that, it is set in stone.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome