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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-12-2009, 08:21 PM Thread Starter
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R/R ordered - question

howdy!

Just ordered a new R/R from RMStator and got it today.
At my biggest surprise it has only 5 pins (vs 6 pins from OEM kaw)!!!!
Has anyone seen this before? I tried to call the tech support but it's too late, i guess they are closing at 6PM.
Anyway, i hope they send me the wrong part so i can exchange it unless it's some new kind of R/R.

thanks in advance

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which one did you buy?
i see they have 2 with similar part numbers...
*RMR260 for 75$ which looks like it says OEM replacement.
and RMR260 for 99$ which looks like it says better than OEM replacement

the heat sink in the pictures look a little different.

i'm thinking about doing the same thing.. just getting a new one and mounting it on the frame and was wondering where to buy one.

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howdy!

Just ordered a new R/R from RMStator and got it today.
At my biggest surprise it has only 5 pins (vs 6 pins from OEM kaw)!!!!
Has anyone seen this before? I tried to call the tech support but it's too late, i guess they are closing at 6PM.
Anyway, i hope they send me the wrong part so i can exchange it unless it's some new kind of R/R.

thanks in advance
They sent you the wrong one, suzuki and yamaha use the 5 pin and kaw uses a 6 pin.


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Electrum - i bought the one $75 RMR260

Lance - ???i can't believe that... i am glad you confirmed it though
Thanks!!!

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The older VN750 configurations used the 6 wire RR. The new ones use the 5 wire. Three wires are for the AC current from the stator and one wire for positive and one for negative to the bike. The older configuration used the 6th wire for a sense wire but Kaw did away with that back around 1991 or so.

Hope this helps.


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Electrum - i bought the one $75 RMR260

Lance - ???i can't believe that... i am glad you confirmed it though
Thanks!!!
That's why I will not buy a cheap Chineese R/R, RM Stator, Electrosport and others buy them in bulk for under $10.00 and sell them between 700% and 1200% markup.

A few years ago a company called Electrex was selling these Chineese stators and r/r's and they were failing as fast as they could replace them, they got such a bad reputation they had to change their name. You may have guessed by now the new name. Electrosport which is owned by RM Stator.

RM Stator is a Canadian based company that imports Chineese made parts and uses Electrosport as their main U.S. distributor. You can buy directly from RM stator but it is still Chineese made crap.

Your better off buying a new Kaw part or buy a used R/R off a vn1500, the vn1500 did not have the R/R issue since the R/R was placed on the side of the bike where it could be cooled.

Shindengen is the main Japaneese supplier of R/R's for Honda, Kawasaki, suzuki and Yamaha. The failure of our R/R's is not the part itself but the placement of the part.

Shindengen made three R/R's for the vn700/750: Sh555-12 85'-93' then was superceeded by the sh658-12 85'-03 which was superceeded by the sh650a-12 85'-06'. ALL three R/R's will work on ALL years but the sh650a-12 was the newest model and is the only one you can buy from Kawasaki.

The same three models were made for Yamaha with the same model number but in a 5 pin version.


Below is an example:

Kawasaki SH658-12 6 pin R/R

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Regul...Q5fAccessories


Yamaha SH658-12 5 pin R/R

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-O...Q5fAccessories


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LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
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The older VN750 configurations used the 6 wire RR. The new ones use the 5 wire. Three wires are for the AC current from the stator and one wire for positive and one for negative to the bike. The older configuration used the 6th wire for a sense wire but Kaw did away with that back around 1991 or so.

Hope this helps.
Incorrect! I have replaced the R/R's on a 97' and and 02' as with the others I have repaired they ALL have a 6 pin R/R.


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REBUILT ENGINE
CUSTOM PAINT
VANCE & HINES CRUZERS
EAR SHAVED AND RE-JETTED W/K&N'S
DUNLOP ELITE K591 FRONT & REAR
VOLTMETER
SYNTHETIC BRAKE FLUID
SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
SPLINES LUBED
ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
COASTERD
LEATHER SADDLE BAGS
LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
CUSTOM GRIPS, MIRRORS, LEVERS
ORIGINAL STATOR & R/R 14.5v
DEKA MF AGM ETX15L

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Incorrect! I have replaced the R/R's on a 97' and and 02' as with the others I have repaired they ALL have a 6 pin R/R.
They all have 6 pins but the harnesses only have 5 live wires. According to Kawasaki when I pressed this issue around 1998 or so when I had my first RR failure, they switched from the sense wire design to the 5-wire design due to issues that they had. My Electosport has 6 pins but one of them is dead. I wish I could provide the proof, but that was 3 or 4 computers back in time.


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They all have 6 pins but the harnesses only have 5 live wires. According to Kawasaki when I pressed this issue around 1998 or so when I had my first RR failure, they switched from the sense wire design to the 5-wire design due to issues that they had. My Electosport has 6 pins but one of them is dead. I wish I could provide the proof, but that was 3 or 4 computers back in time.
Still INCORECT!

All of the vn750's I have repaired have a 6 pin R/R and a 6 pin connector. I have not worked on an 04'-06', maybe it was changed then but from 85'-03' they have a 6 pin R/R, 6 pin connector w/6 wires.


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REBUILT ENGINE
CUSTOM PAINT
VANCE & HINES CRUZERS
EAR SHAVED AND RE-JETTED W/K&N'S
DUNLOP ELITE K591 FRONT & REAR
VOLTMETER
SYNTHETIC BRAKE FLUID
SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
SPLINES LUBED
ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
COASTERD
LEATHER SADDLE BAGS
LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
CUSTOM GRIPS, MIRRORS, LEVERS
ORIGINAL STATOR & R/R 14.5v
DEKA MF AGM ETX15L

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Bulldog:

Too Bad you are Completely Wrong in your Knowledge of the wire colors and the 6-pin connection on the R/R's of the later model VN750's

Here is pictures of my R/R connector on my 2002 VN750..........





And as you can see it has 6 wires not 5...........

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The older VN750 configurations used the 6 wire RR. The new ones use the 5 wire. Three wires are for the AC current from the stator and one wire for positive and one for negative to the bike. The older configuration used the 6th wire for a sense wire but Kaw did away with that back around 1991 or so.

Hope this helps.

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