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Flashers not blinking

Hey all

I have replaced my rear signals with "Auto Gem baby bullets" lights, two wire set up and they are not blinking. I am not sure if it means my relay is shot... All I hear when I engage the signal is a rapid clicking noise and the signal comes on but does not blink.

So does this mean my relay is dead?

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Hey all

I have replaced my rear signals with "Auto Gem baby bullets" lights, two wire set up and they are not blinking. I am not sure if it means my relay is shot... All I hear when I engage the signal is a rapid clicking noise and the signal comes on but does not blink.
So does this mean my relay is dead?

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Does this mean the new signals light up, but do not flash?
Or does only the dash indicator light come on?
Will the 4 way flashers activate on all 4 lights?
Are the new lights LEDs?
Have the front signals previously been changed out for LEDs?
Did you test the lights to insure they would light before installing them?

If the flasher worked with the stock incandescent bulbs, it is likely still ok, but it may not be compatible with the new signals, if they are considerably higher watts.

Conversely if front and rear lights are both LEDs, they do not draw enough power to operate the OEM flasher. In this case you need a new one. I know lance posted a link for one previously. Check anyone who sells LED signals, they should have a compatible flasher relay.

In my autos, when the signal flasher unit blinks too fast, it usually indicates that too many bulbs are in the circuit. ie. If the flasher is designed for 2 bulbs, and I hook up a trailer, then the 3rd bulb causes a higher current (amps) draw, and the flasher heats up faster, causing it to cycle faster.

On the other hand, when the dash indicator light stays on when activated, instead of flashing, it indicates a missing or burned out bulb. The flasher unit also does not make any clicking when the light stays on.

So your rapid clicking of the flasher relay and the light staying on at the same time is counter to my experience.

If you can answer the questions at the beginning of the post, we can pin point where the problem is.

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Very good questions Ol Hoss. I was too confused to try to answer his post! That should clear things up if we get answers.

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Does this mean the new signals light up, but do not flash?
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Or does only the dash indicator light come on?
Umm... no dash right now.. I took it off and have not replaced it yet.
Will the 4 way flashers activate on all 4 lights?
hazards have the same effect, lights are continuous on and there is a rapid clicking noise coming from the signal relay. (no front signals.. I took em off)
Are the new lights LEDs?
incandescent
Have the front signals previously been changed out for LEDs?
again no LEDs.. no front signals
Did you test the lights to insure they would light before installing them?
umm... no.... oops
If the flasher worked with the stock incandescent bulbs, it is likely still ok, but it may not be compatible with the new signals, if they are considerably higher watts.
I am thinking they are lower watts... and with no front signals lower draw?
Conversely if front and rear lights are both LEDs, they do not draw enough power to operate the OEM flasher. In this case you need a new one. I know lance posted a link for one previously. Check anyone who sells LED signals, they should have a compatible flasher relay.
I am thinking this may be the issue since I eliminated the front signals and the new rear ones are much smaller, I think the bulb is a 14 Volt 0.27 Amp Miniature Wedge Base bulb.
thoughts? Should I find a different relay perhaps one for LEDs?


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Switch to an Electronic flasher unit. Most Auto Parts stores carry them.


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Switch to an Electronic flasher unit. Most Auto Parts stores carry them.
Something like this perhaps?

Blazer/11-15 Volts 3 Terminal 2 Lamps for Turn Signal / 4 Lamps for Hazard Warning Electronic Flasher for Newer Import Cars, Trucks and Some American Vehicles


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Something like this perhaps?

Blazer/11-15 Volts 3 Terminal 2 Lamps for Turn Signal / 4 Lamps for Hazard Warning Electronic Flasher for Newer Import Cars, Trucks and Some American Vehicles
Use the Tridon EP34 12v 3 Terminal electronic Flasher.


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Did the OEM rear signals flash with the front signals removed? Logic tells me that the flasher relay should have interpreted that as a burned out bulb, and the rear signal stay on and not flash either.

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mine works with either end but it flashes faster with a bulb blown,seems I didn't read all the posts so excuse my lazy ways ,but if it is clicking too fast with the stock flasher it is because of low amp draw and Lance has given the best advice and that is an electronic Flasher that doesn't work off of a load but an internal timer.




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The electronic flasher will usualy cure: Fast blinking, Slow blinking and no blinking symptoms.


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