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Question New model "Delta Force" stator, 30-33 amps, mentioned in vulcan verses.

I was just perusing the verses and noticed some references to higher power stators than Ma Kawi`s OEM output of approximately 21 amps.
In about 2005, Electrosport had a model# G-05 which produced 26 amps, for ~ a 25% increase.
There was a higher power, "Delta Force" 30-33 amp stator, in development at that time. It would have required a new higher power RR matched to it. Does anyone know if this stator/RR combo was ever completed and released to the public? I don`t believe that the current stator that electrosport sells is much different in capacity than Kawi`s OEM.

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I was just perusing the verses and noticed some references to higher power stators than Ma Kawi`s OEM output of approximately 21 amps.

In about 2005, Electrosport had a model# G-05 which produced 26 amps, for ~ a 25% increase.

There was a higher power, "Delta Force" 30-33 amp stator, in development at that time. It would have required a new higher power RR matched to it. Does anyone know if this stator/RR combo was ever completed and released to the public? I don`t believe that the current stator that electrosport sells is much different in capacity than Kawi`s OEM.
According to Maw Kaw's manual, the stock output is 24A @ 8,000rpm, 14V; that's less than a 1% increase in output, if I did my math correctly, and my math may be suspect, too. <G>

That said, 21A @ cruise may be about right, but I don't have an ammeter hooked up to my bike to be able to tell--and not sure I could get one wired for an accurate reading if I did!

However, to answer your primary question, I don't recall anything ever coming of the "Delta Force" stator/RR combo; never read or heard anything, anyway. I do recall someone selling a stator with a little bit more output, but not that much I don't think; Willie's Cycle, maybe?

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According to Maw Kaw's manual, the stock output is 24A @ 8,000rpm, 14V; that's less than a 1% increase in output, if I did my math correctly, and my math may be suspect, too. <G>

That said, 21A @ cruise may be about right, but I don't have an ammeter hooked up to my bike to be able to tell--and not sure I could get one wired for an accurate reading if I did!

However, to answer your primary question, I don't recall anything ever coming of the "Delta Force" stator/RR combo; never read or heard anything, anyway. I do recall someone selling a stator with a little bit more output, but not that much I don't think; Willie's Cycle, maybe?

Jim
Hey JD, you`re right about the 24A @ 8,000rpm, and I saw it in the verses too. I must have had a brain fart when I read it, because I was thinking that was over the redline of 7,500 rpm. Of course I remember now the redline is 8,500 rpm. Now, 21 Amps is all I`m ever likely to get from my stock stator, because 6 grand is about as fast as I`m ever likely to cruise on my vn.

Your math is a little off though. An increase from 24 to 26 amps gives a ratio of 2/24 which =1/12 = 8.33%.

I doubt that we will ever see a stator able to generate the power that the Delta Force was hoped to make. But a stator that would give us 26 amps at a cruising speed of 70 mph, and engine speed ~5,000 rpm, would be just about a 24% increase over the Kawi OEM. This would give us a lot more flexibility in adding electrical goodies to the vn.

I`ll check willies cycle and see what I can find.

edit: Only find willies cycle salvage.

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Hey JD, you`re right about the 24A @ 8,000rpm, and I saw it in the verses too. I must have had a brain fart when I read it, because I was thinking that was over the redline of 7,500 rpm. Of course I remember now the redline is 8,500 rpm. Now, 21 Amps is all I`m ever likely to get from my stock stator, because 6 grand is about as fast as I`m ever likely to cruise on my vn.

Your math is a little off though. An increase from 24 to 26 amps gives a ratio of 2/24 which =1/12 = 8.33%.

I doubt that we will ever see a stator able to generate the power that the Delta Force was hoped to make. But a stator that would give us 26 amps at a cruising speed of 70 mph, and engine speed ~5,000 rpm, would be just about a 24% increase over the Kawi OEM. This would give us a lot more flexibility in adding electrical goodies to the vn.

I`ll check willies cycle and see what I can find.

edit: Only find willies cycle salvage.
<G> 6 grand will still get you ~80mph! As for the math...suffice to say, it was a long day, and I'd just gotten my engine back in the bike for the second time in two weeks--after changing the stator <g>--and the damn thing wouldn't run right. Carbs sat too long, I do believe... And as for having to pull it twice, I somehow got the cover gasket hung above the shifter shaft; major oil leak. That's what I get for tilting it the first time, instead of just pulling it all the way out like I should've in the first place.

I think willies cycle salvage is the one, but I must've been mistaken about them being the one offering higher output stators. Rick's doesn't show one either, so beats me now who it was. Oldtimer's Disease...

Jim

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