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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-17-2010, 09:15 PM Thread Starter
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Gas cap w/key?

Anybody got a spare gas cap with key? My lock is very stiff and my key has bent quite a bit already... Having a hard time getting into it to fill up the bike... which will eventually become a huge problem... LOL

But really though, anyone got one they can spare...?

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Anybody got a spare gas cap with key? My lock is very stiff and my key has bent quite a bit already... Having a hard time getting into it to fill up the bike... which will eventually become a huge problem... LOL

But really though, anyone got one they can spare...?
I just put about 7 drops of 3 in 1 oil to lube the tumblers and cylinder and the same around where the latch goes into the cap. Turn the key several times to work it in. When you open the cap press down on the front of the cap with your free hand before you turn the key, it does help.


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This stuff has freed up a bunch of locks for me: http://www.google.com/product_url?q=...hl=en&sa=image I found it at Lowes. Gave my sticky sidestand a shot and it works perfectly. Being a dry lubricant, it doesn't attract dirt. Great for bike chains too. Put a cloth around the lock to absorb any overspray.

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Alright... So, I have used PB Blaster and another lube that I found (don't remember what it was... But, I am still bending my gas key.

Does anyone have, or know where I can find, a spare gas cap for my bike? I wish I could just use a screw in, but we don't have threading... If there was another method of gas cap that I could use I would be all over it.

1990 VN750
Got it on 9/10/09
7683 original miles when I got it
7870 current (constantly adding more)
Mods already on bike:
Kuryakyn Iso Grips with throttle boss
Kuryakyn Iso pegs with heel rests
Windshield (not sure what brand or style, just look at my pic)
Leather Saddle bags
Leather t-bag
Mods since I got it:
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Many more to come...
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Just saw a guy selling a couple of Herritage Softail tanks on craigslist... Has anyone modified one of these tanks to fit on the vn750? I am thinking this would allow me two things, a little bit of a larger tank, and a screw on gas cap, instead of a bend a key a week locking cap... What sort of modifications would it take to make this tank work for our bikes?

1990 VN750
Got it on 9/10/09
7683 original miles when I got it
7870 current (constantly adding more)
Mods already on bike:
Kuryakyn Iso Grips with throttle boss
Kuryakyn Iso pegs with heel rests
Windshield (not sure what brand or style, just look at my pic)
Leather Saddle bags
Leather t-bag
Mods since I got it:
Wet Battery
Many more to come...
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Alright... So, I have used PB Blaster and another lube that I found (don't remember what it was... But, I am still bending my gas key.
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The gas cap has 5 small springs that apply pressure to the cap to keep a tight seal. The tension makes it difficult to open the gas cap without first pressing on the cap to relieve the tension.

Are you pressing the gas cap down before and during the key turning process?

If so, and it is still binding, then try removing the latch mechanism on the underside of the gas cap (only 2 screws hold it in place) and cleaning/inspecting the locking and latch mechanism for binding/crud. Cover the gas tank opening first to prevent dropping any small parts into the gas tank. Most key systems can be cleaned and saved as long as there is no corrosion, pitting or rust.

p.s. Once cleaned and functioning, I prefer a dry lubricant for key systems such as graphite. Don't mix dry (i.e., graphite) and wet (i.e., WD-40, 3-in-1 oil, etc.) lubricants!


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I've got a cheap one I can sell you - but you should be able to get the old one working just fine. . .

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I use Tri-flow to lube most locks I work on. It's a Teflon based lube. It won't attracted dust or dirt and repels moisture. First take the cap off the tank. Use the small tube on the Tri-flow can that attaches to the spray nozzle. Squirt directly into the key hole. Then work the key in and out of the key hole many, many times. Next push the latch mechanism in all the way and squirt all around it. Put your key in and operate the latch mechanism with the key. Again repeat this procedure multiple times. If this doesn't fix the issue then dis-assembly maybe necessary.
Does this key work fine in all the other locks? Especially the helmet locks? I ask this because if the key is slightly off.......you know, a duplicate of a duplicate. That could be a large part of the problem. We're trying the suspect key in the helmet locks because these locks get less use and wear than any other lock on the bike.
Actually, I had the same problem with my gas cap. I took it off, did a complete dis-assembly and coated the inner workings/moving parts with Militec Grease.
All the wafers could be removed from the cylinder or the core portion of the lock; so that a flat bladed screw driver or any key that fit in the hole could be used to open it up. It would not be my suggestion to use PB Blaster, Graphite or WD40 as a permanent fix. I have my reasons, but I think I've been long winded enough here already. I have been a Professional Locksmith for 28 years now and have learned a few things here and there; but you can do what you like. Hope this helps. JM2C
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