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Handlebars, Pre-Load, Voyager Trike Kit

Just got a VN750 with Voyager Trike Kit. Have a couple questions in case anyone is in the know.

1) the advisory suggests changing handlebars to gain better leverage. Does this seem to make sense and would a handlebar riser be as good an option (probably more cost effective)? Good sources to find these things?

2) they also suggest installing a steering damper on front forks to reduce front-end shaking. Is this costly/difficult to do? Good sources to find steering damper?

Last thing I've read is that I should have a 1/4" pre-load setup on the trike kit. I don't think I should attempt this myself, but are many shops used to doing this sort of thing? Anyone have any experience with kits like this?

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massive pain to install a steering damper I would think, and adding a handlebar riser wouldn't do anything for your turning leverage. I personally wouldn't ride with the trike setup, they're counterintuitive to motorcycle riding because you don't countersteer or lean the bike, and to me that's what makes motorcycling fun.

Stock handlebars are probably pretty good for width, and a steering damper is not feasible unless you're a good fabricator. We'll need more info on the preload spec and what that means, but it's probably referencing the rear shocks in which case I would imagine a stiffer damping setting (2-3) would be best, since our stock rear shocks don't have a preload setting, just damping control and air pressure (which is very difficult to set)

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The recommendation on the handlebars is to make the handlebars longer from left-to-right in order to give you more leverage when turning the bars. You don't need to do it unless you feel like you're really having to push/pull really hard to get your trike setup to turn. Ride for a while and see how you feel.

Have you noticed front end wobble when you ride?
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The recommendation on the handlebars is to make the handlebars longer from left-to-right in order to give you more leverage when turning the bars. You don't need to do it unless you feel like you're really having to push/pull really hard to get your trike setup to turn. Ride for a while and see how you feel.

Have you noticed front end wobble when you ride?
Thanks - I'm going to have to feel it out more before I can determine but I like being a step ahead. =)
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Steering dampeners are expensive nowadays...I honestly don't think you need one anyway.

Stock bars should be fine.

You don't need to increase the preload (of the forks) unless you notice the front end diving hard during breaking. (Do the extra wheels on the rear have brakes?)

Only thing I'd suggest is going to a 110 tire up front. Which I think is still a bit skinny for a trike.
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anyone here ever ride a trike(which isn't the same as a sidecar)?read the advisory that Kirsten posted.bikes with lighter front ends tend to get squirrely in the bumps and tend to be hard to steer. the bars dimensions on a vn are not ment to steer the bike at speed,which you need to do on a trike,hence wider and slightly taller bars are needed.

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Stock bars on the Vulcan 750 are approximately 32 inches wide. And are taller than most stock bars. Given the weight of the bike I'd say that width should be fine. Really depends on not just the strength of the rider, but their reach.
You need to sit on the bike and measure how far you can comfortably reach forward when the bars are turned fully in one direction.
I'm not sure I'd call the front end "light" on the Vulcan. But what do I know....

The preload they are talking about is the setting of the rear suspension on the outer wheels.

These kits by the way are not true "trikes", they are basically no different than the training wheels you put on your kids bike. They are not driven nor have brakes. The rear tire on the motorcycle still drives the bike foreword. True trikes have both rear wheels drive and use a differential. They have been specifically designed to ride on 3 wheels....(not 4)
Not saying they don't work or are not safe. But given the Vulcans sketchy rear drum and the added mass of the kit, I'd rather use it on a different bike myself.

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Stock bars on the Vulcan 750 are approximately 32 inches wide. And are taller than most stock bars. Given the weight of the bike I'd say that width should be fine. Really depends on not just the strength of the rider, but their reach.
You need to sit on the bike and measure how far you can comfortably reach forward when the bars are turned fully in one direction.
I'm not sure I'd call the front end "light" on the Vulcan. But what do I know....

The preload they are talking about is the setting of the rear suspension on the outer wheels.

These kits by the way are not true "trikes", they are basically no different than the training wheels you put on your kids bike. They are not driven nor have brakes. The rear tire on the motorcycle still drives the bike foreword. True trikes have both rear wheels drive and use a differential. They have been specifically designed to ride on 3 wheels....(not 4)
Not saying they don't work or are not safe. But given the Vulcans sketchy rear drum and the added mass of the kit, I'd rather use it on a different bike myself.
yeah,hmm,what do you know?hmm,more than the people who designed and engineered it?and yes a vn750 front end is light compared to a fully dressed Goldwing or a Kawasaki Voyager or an Electra Glide.there is probably a reason the advisory was written, and I don't think it it was because of the excessive amount of ink the executives of the company accidentally ordered

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